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Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM
without him, the wondergirls would be toast and Nynaeve wouldn't have been able to do anything.

I assume you are referring to the Stone? Well in that case you would also have to say Juilin was as important, because without Juilin, Mat would have been toast. They pretty much shared the honors of that rescue.

NaCl(tho Mat, as always gets all the credit)H2O +<img class=' />


She did help carry Mat back to the WT in tDR, too, to heal his connection with the SL dagger.

But I think the Bowl of the Winds isn't very important at all in the grand scheme of things, and Alivia probably would have served as well as Nynaeve in cleansing saidin. She was really just a reservoir/conduit.

Oops, I thought I said I wasn't going to downplay Nynaeve.

Not that Mat has done much more, but he's been Networking, if you will :P, and that'll help a lot for TG.
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) RabidWombat - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 1600 Views
Nyneave wins hands down Isaac - 17/10/2009 05:22:08 AM 845 Views
Nyneave has done more fairfax - 17/10/2009 06:42:26 AM 813 Views
Nynaeve! Fantasy - 17/10/2009 04:12:00 PM 760 Views
I'd say Mat BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM 843 Views
are you sure? NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM 860 Views
Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM 835 Views
Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM 1051 Views
Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 765 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* NaClH2O - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 366 Views
Actually, there might be a better reason for why it mattered. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 07:03:32 PM 812 Views
Immaterial. NaClH2O - 10/12/2009 07:48:51 PM 681 Views
It has to be Moiraine TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM 865 Views
Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither. Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM 941 Views
So you think the story would have panned out TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM 697 Views
None. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:43:08 PM 352 Views
That's highly subjective ranagrande - 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM 753 Views
Re: That's highly subjective BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:54:52 PM 698 Views
I think you know exactly what I mean. TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 708 Views
All of them ranagrande - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM 832 Views
Those were only visions TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM 724 Views
They may have only been visions... ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM 768 Views
"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM 713 Views
Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" ranagrande - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 847 Views
That all goes without saying TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM 633 Views
I disagree ranagrande - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 739 Views
Re: I disagree TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 729 Views
It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold beetnemesis - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM 694 Views
Does that mean he'd win? TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM 721 Views
IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM 667 Views
Not really what I was arguing. TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:30:05 PM 690 Views
Good points RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 06:14:08 AM 800 Views
the BCS is not a good system *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:08:25 AM 356 Views
Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 969 Views
Someone needs to re-adjust their meds RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM 829 Views
I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM 730 Views
That is true for most people if not all RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM 741 Views
He's got a point though... Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM 796 Views
"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101. TheCrownless - 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 702 Views
Damn skippy! *NM* Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:17:36 AM 347 Views
Ishamael/Moridin Sidious - 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM 966 Views
Good call TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM 778 Views
Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment Ryan - 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM 651 Views
Re: Ishamael/Moridin ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 869 Views
lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM 334 Views
You make it sound very simple BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 789 Views
No - it is very simple Sidious - 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM 748 Views
Not necessarily- Digital_Eon - 19/10/2009 09:22:16 PM 758 Views
surely a draw meant resealing TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 03:56:49 PM 698 Views
I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM 812 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:56:06 PM 874 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 11:22:36 PM 835 Views
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