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Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM
without him, the wondergirls would be toast and Nynaeve wouldn't have been able to do anything.

I assume you are referring to the Stone? Well in that case you would also have to say Juilin was as important, because without Juilin, Mat would have been toast. They pretty much shared the honors of that rescue.

NaCl(tho Mat, as always gets all the credit)H2O +<img class=' />


She did help carry Mat back to the WT in tDR, too, to heal his connection with the SL dagger.

But I think the Bowl of the Winds isn't very important at all in the grand scheme of things, and Alivia probably would have served as well as Nynaeve in cleansing saidin. She was really just a reservoir/conduit.

Oops, I thought I said I wasn't going to downplay Nynaeve.

Not that Mat has done much more, but he's been Networking, if you will :P, and that'll help a lot for TG.
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) RabidWombat - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 1640 Views
Nyneave wins hands down Isaac - 17/10/2009 05:22:08 AM 923 Views
Nyneave has done more fairfax - 17/10/2009 06:42:26 AM 862 Views
Nynaeve! Fantasy - 17/10/2009 04:12:00 PM 808 Views
I'd say Mat BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM 887 Views
are you sure? NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM 902 Views
Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM 881 Views
Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM 1096 Views
Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 809 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* NaClH2O - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 389 Views
Actually, there might be a better reason for why it mattered. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 07:03:32 PM 856 Views
Immaterial. NaClH2O - 10/12/2009 07:48:51 PM 722 Views
It has to be Moiraine TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM 909 Views
Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither. Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM 999 Views
So you think the story would have panned out TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM 748 Views
None. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:43:08 PM 376 Views
That's highly subjective ranagrande - 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM 799 Views
Re: That's highly subjective BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:54:52 PM 744 Views
I think you know exactly what I mean. TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 750 Views
All of them ranagrande - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM 873 Views
Those were only visions TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM 772 Views
They may have only been visions... ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM 814 Views
"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM 756 Views
Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" ranagrande - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 900 Views
That all goes without saying TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM 685 Views
I disagree ranagrande - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 785 Views
Re: I disagree TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 780 Views
It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold beetnemesis - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM 747 Views
Does that mean he'd win? TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM 770 Views
IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM 713 Views
Not really what I was arguing. TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:30:05 PM 741 Views
Good points RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 06:14:08 AM 843 Views
the BCS is not a good system *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:08:25 AM 379 Views
Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 1014 Views
Someone needs to re-adjust their meds RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM 881 Views
I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM 776 Views
That is true for most people if not all RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM 789 Views
He's got a point though... Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM 854 Views
"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101. TheCrownless - 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 735 Views
Damn skippy! *NM* Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:17:36 AM 373 Views
Ishamael/Moridin Sidious - 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM 1025 Views
Good call TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM 822 Views
Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment Ryan - 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM 698 Views
Re: Ishamael/Moridin ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 944 Views
lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM 358 Views
You make it sound very simple BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 840 Views
No - it is very simple Sidious - 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM 818 Views
Not necessarily- Digital_Eon - 19/10/2009 09:22:16 PM 813 Views
surely a draw meant resealing TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 03:56:49 PM 740 Views
I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM 856 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:56:06 PM 929 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 11:22:36 PM 875 Views
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