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All of them ranagrande Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM
without her anyway?

My memory of the books isn't as great as yours, but how many of the alternative futures ends well for Rand?

If I were Rand, I might have preferred some of those alternate lives to the one he has now.



Which one of those ends in Rand winning/shadow losing?
I can safely say this because we have been told the great paradox: "If the Dark One breaks free in one world, he will be free in all of them, but as long as he is imprisoned in at least one world, he is imprisoned in them all."

Sure, Rand repeatedly heard a voice proclaim "I have won again Lews Therin," but even he recognized that it was a lie. We know that the shadow cannot have won in any of those other worlds because it is still fighting for a victory in the "real" world.
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) RabidWombat - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 1616 Views
Nyneave wins hands down Isaac - 17/10/2009 05:22:08 AM 881 Views
Nyneave has done more fairfax - 17/10/2009 06:42:26 AM 834 Views
Nynaeve! Fantasy - 17/10/2009 04:12:00 PM 781 Views
I'd say Mat BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM 863 Views
are you sure? NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM 880 Views
Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM 855 Views
Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM 1073 Views
Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 783 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* NaClH2O - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 374 Views
Actually, there might be a better reason for why it mattered. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 07:03:32 PM 834 Views
Immaterial. NaClH2O - 10/12/2009 07:48:51 PM 700 Views
It has to be Moiraine TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM 887 Views
Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither. Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM 967 Views
So you think the story would have panned out TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM 716 Views
None. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:43:08 PM 362 Views
That's highly subjective ranagrande - 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM 777 Views
Re: That's highly subjective BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:54:52 PM 717 Views
I think you know exactly what I mean. TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 725 Views
All of them ranagrande - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM 850 Views
Those were only visions TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM 747 Views
They may have only been visions... ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM 790 Views
"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM 732 Views
Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" ranagrande - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 870 Views
That all goes without saying TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM 652 Views
I disagree ranagrande - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 759 Views
Re: I disagree TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 752 Views
It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold beetnemesis - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM 718 Views
Does that mean he'd win? TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM 742 Views
IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM 685 Views
Not really what I was arguing. TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:30:05 PM 708 Views
Good points RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 06:14:08 AM 819 Views
the BCS is not a good system *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:08:25 AM 365 Views
Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 991 Views
Someone needs to re-adjust their meds RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM 851 Views
I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM 751 Views
That is true for most people if not all RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM 761 Views
He's got a point though... Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM 821 Views
"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101. TheCrownless - 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 719 Views
Damn skippy! *NM* Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:17:36 AM 359 Views
Ishamael/Moridin Sidious - 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM 995 Views
Good call TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM 798 Views
Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment Ryan - 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM 670 Views
Re: Ishamael/Moridin ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 900 Views
lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM 344 Views
You make it sound very simple BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 810 Views
No - it is very simple Sidious - 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM 779 Views
Not necessarily- Digital_Eon - 19/10/2009 09:22:16 PM 785 Views
surely a draw meant resealing TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 03:56:49 PM 717 Views
I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM 832 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:56:06 PM 891 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 11:22:36 PM 855 Views
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