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It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame Send a noteboard - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM
A coward would instead mindlessly cling to life no matter what. It takes courage and fortitude to make a sacrifice on the order of ending your own existence so that you can't be used as a weapon to enslave your people.

The White Tower is at war with the Seanchan. In war you need to disarm your enemy. Any captive Aes Sedai are enemy weapons.
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Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) Matrimony Cauthon - 13/11/2009 06:22:50 PM 2481 Views
Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured Lordling - 13/11/2009 07:04:02 PM 1259 Views
That doesn't make her right, it makes her a coward *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:50 PM 645 Views
Your hatred and judgment of Egwene is obsessive and at times unreasonable. Like right now. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 14/11/2009 03:56:34 AM 623 Views
In this he his reasonable...I think he is mostly wrong with the statement, but it is reasonable *NM* RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:08:35 AM 527 Views
Wrong and unreasonable. krassos - 14/11/2009 11:07:16 PM 1215 Views
It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM 600 Views
"Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" krassos - 15/11/2009 02:45:21 PM 1007 Views
Re: "Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" guttering flame - 15/11/2009 03:14:27 PM 1148 Views
Because most people often get acclimated to being beaten 3 or more times a day. krassos - 17/11/2009 01:02:37 AM 1044 Views
When teenagers were physically punished in schools guttering flame - 18/11/2009 05:52:54 AM 1152 Views
Teenagers at school didn't spend hours a day getting spanked. Repeatedly. For weeks straight. krassos - 20/11/2009 02:13:38 AM 966 Views
Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens guttering flame - 13/11/2009 07:19:14 PM 1171 Views
Re: Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens Night Walker - 13/11/2009 07:25:14 PM 1106 Views
Forcible turning is not the only method guttering flame - 13/11/2009 08:28:08 PM 1205 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM 1225 Views
The point is guttering flame - 13/11/2009 11:00:58 PM 933 Views
They were tried. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:23:45 AM 467 Views
Mock trials guttering flame - 14/11/2009 08:06:14 AM 1090 Views
Proof? fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:09:14 AM 975 Views
That's the impression I got from Sheriam's 'trial' guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:44:09 AM 1036 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 06:55:54 PM 1058 Views
And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM 1152 Views
Ordinarily, I would disagree... RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 1197 Views
Re: Ordinarily, I would disagree... Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:04:37 AM 1098 Views
Except for the fact that she never served the Dark One. She was Black Ajah in name only. krassos - 21/11/2009 04:16:48 PM 977 Views
Not true. Verin did in fact serve the DO. She admited as much darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:28:56 AM 994 Views
They had trials. No mention of them presenting such evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:54:23 PM 487 Views
Forced turnings should be killed too Sidious - 15/11/2009 07:06:43 AM 1043 Views
Sad but true darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 05:05:08 PM 987 Views
Based on those two actions... entyti - 13/11/2009 08:01:32 PM 1208 Views
How was she going to protect the Tower and occupants then? NaClH2O - 13/11/2009 08:02:31 PM 1145 Views
There is a difference between collateral damage and targeting your own people! *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:56:10 PM 521 Views
She did not target her own people... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:39:14 AM 1037 Views
You seem to be contradicting yourself here guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:52:07 AM 1078 Views
Because they were indistinct specks high in the sky? *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:11:15 AM 468 Views
Considering the power she had in her hands guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:52:10 AM 1387 Views
That's ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 07:07:11 PM 1133 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:21:44 PM 1076 Views
typical cannoli double speak, she wasn't targeting her own people NaClH2O - 14/11/2009 01:46:10 AM 2620 Views
Nothing wrong with that. Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:11:15 AM 1119 Views
She does have first hand experience TheCrownless - 14/11/2009 07:52:20 PM 1095 Views
Dozens of dark sisters together...trapped like rats... krassos - 18/11/2009 12:29:19 AM 1037 Views
Re: Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) randfandom - 13/11/2009 08:16:29 PM 1075 Views
Neither is an atrocity... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:17:08 PM 1289 Views
this ^ *NM* Deadsy - 13/11/2009 08:34:10 PM 440 Views
Re: Neither is an atrocity... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 08:59:30 PM 1064 Views
Bull Sh!t! fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:00 PM 1156 Views
Come on now... Rand al'Thor - 13/11/2009 09:13:50 PM 1062 Views
Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:26:11 PM 1050 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:56:01 PM 973 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:08:06 PM 980 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM 1047 Views
fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:45:57 PM 947 Views
Re: Knightscape - 13/11/2009 11:16:58 PM 1038 Views
Re: fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:34:49 AM 934 Views
Re: Knightscape - 14/11/2009 01:46:51 AM 1018 Views
Yes your argument is very much Bull Sh!t Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:15:17 PM 1096 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:27:11 PM 1055 Views
Re: So... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:07:15 PM 939 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:09:43 PM 971 Views
Re: Not at all... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:54:14 PM 955 Views
Re: Not at all... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:36:36 AM 957 Views
Break out the inflatable balloon swords and have at it already! Ryan - 14/11/2009 02:14:47 AM 977 Views
Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/11/2009 09:17:14 PM 1157 Views
Re: Rand. Dragonsworn - 13/11/2009 10:56:04 PM 1273 Views
But that is not her choice to make. She has NO right to decide that for anyone. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:57:03 PM 508 Views
No, she had no right to make that choice Ryan - 14/11/2009 03:54:35 AM 926 Views
Yes, it was her choice to make, and she is now responsible for the consequences. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/11/2009 06:24:46 PM 1412 Views
Since Rand did not perform any atrocities, Egwene by default (Existing) Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:22 PM 1202 Views
Its the difference between lodlom - 14/11/2009 02:59:42 AM 1064 Views
Cannoli mentioned already - after balefire you can live again Skeeve the Great - 20/11/2009 03:38:06 AM 936 Views
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