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And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM
The thing is though; we have never seen a way to reverse this type of recruiting. Even though those people didn't choose that path, they are now loyal to the DO, probably more then most those who willing went over.


As Verin herself show us. There are doubtless many who joined for fear for their friends or made the decisions to regret it later. Sheriam for example seemed an unwilling supporter for the end of all things even if she had at one time joined them to get faster advancements in the Tower.
None of those is a good reason or acceptable mitigation for serving the Dark One.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
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Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) Matrimony Cauthon - 13/11/2009 06:22:50 PM 2359 Views
Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured Lordling - 13/11/2009 07:04:02 PM 1075 Views
That doesn't make her right, it makes her a coward *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:50 PM 594 Views
Your hatred and judgment of Egwene is obsessive and at times unreasonable. Like right now. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 14/11/2009 03:56:34 AM 570 Views
In this he his reasonable...I think he is mostly wrong with the statement, but it is reasonable *NM* RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:08:35 AM 446 Views
Wrong and unreasonable. krassos - 14/11/2009 11:07:16 PM 1102 Views
It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM 548 Views
"Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" krassos - 15/11/2009 02:45:21 PM 875 Views
Re: "Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" guttering flame - 15/11/2009 03:14:27 PM 1032 Views
Because most people often get acclimated to being beaten 3 or more times a day. krassos - 17/11/2009 01:02:37 AM 933 Views
When teenagers were physically punished in schools guttering flame - 18/11/2009 05:52:54 AM 1052 Views
Teenagers at school didn't spend hours a day getting spanked. Repeatedly. For weeks straight. krassos - 20/11/2009 02:13:38 AM 845 Views
Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens guttering flame - 13/11/2009 07:19:14 PM 1041 Views
Re: Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens Night Walker - 13/11/2009 07:25:14 PM 995 Views
Forcible turning is not the only method guttering flame - 13/11/2009 08:28:08 PM 1105 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM 1109 Views
The point is guttering flame - 13/11/2009 11:00:58 PM 846 Views
They were tried. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:23:45 AM 413 Views
Mock trials guttering flame - 14/11/2009 08:06:14 AM 956 Views
Proof? fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:09:14 AM 878 Views
That's the impression I got from Sheriam's 'trial' guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:44:09 AM 943 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 06:55:54 PM 968 Views
And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM 1043 Views
Ordinarily, I would disagree... RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 1095 Views
Re: Ordinarily, I would disagree... Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:04:37 AM 987 Views
Except for the fact that she never served the Dark One. She was Black Ajah in name only. krassos - 21/11/2009 04:16:48 PM 873 Views
Not true. Verin did in fact serve the DO. She admited as much darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:28:56 AM 881 Views
They had trials. No mention of them presenting such evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:54:23 PM 425 Views
Forced turnings should be killed too Sidious - 15/11/2009 07:06:43 AM 918 Views
Sad but true darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 05:05:08 PM 871 Views
Based on those two actions... entyti - 13/11/2009 08:01:32 PM 1077 Views
How was she going to protect the Tower and occupants then? NaClH2O - 13/11/2009 08:02:31 PM 981 Views
There is a difference between collateral damage and targeting your own people! *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:56:10 PM 444 Views
She did not target her own people... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:39:14 AM 948 Views
You seem to be contradicting yourself here guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:52:07 AM 961 Views
Because they were indistinct specks high in the sky? *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:11:15 AM 421 Views
Considering the power she had in her hands guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:52:10 AM 1268 Views
That's ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 07:07:11 PM 1003 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:21:44 PM 956 Views
typical cannoli double speak, she wasn't targeting her own people NaClH2O - 14/11/2009 01:46:10 AM 2528 Views
Nothing wrong with that. Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:11:15 AM 1006 Views
She does have first hand experience TheCrownless - 14/11/2009 07:52:20 PM 1000 Views
Dozens of dark sisters together...trapped like rats... krassos - 18/11/2009 12:29:19 AM 923 Views
Re: Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) randfandom - 13/11/2009 08:16:29 PM 967 Views
Neither is an atrocity... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:17:08 PM 1188 Views
this ^ *NM* Deadsy - 13/11/2009 08:34:10 PM 385 Views
Re: Neither is an atrocity... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 08:59:30 PM 970 Views
Bull Sh!t! fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:00 PM 1036 Views
Come on now... Rand al'Thor - 13/11/2009 09:13:50 PM 956 Views
Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:26:11 PM 951 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:56:01 PM 860 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:08:06 PM 888 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM 940 Views
fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:45:57 PM 863 Views
Re: Knightscape - 13/11/2009 11:16:58 PM 940 Views
Re: fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:34:49 AM 829 Views
Re: Knightscape - 14/11/2009 01:46:51 AM 907 Views
Yes your argument is very much Bull Sh!t Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:15:17 PM 1008 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:27:11 PM 958 Views
Re: So... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:07:15 PM 844 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:09:43 PM 880 Views
Re: Not at all... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:54:14 PM 861 Views
Re: Not at all... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:36:36 AM 870 Views
Break out the inflatable balloon swords and have at it already! Ryan - 14/11/2009 02:14:47 AM 884 Views
Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/11/2009 09:17:14 PM 1017 Views
Re: Rand. Dragonsworn - 13/11/2009 10:56:04 PM 1171 Views
But that is not her choice to make. She has NO right to decide that for anyone. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:57:03 PM 438 Views
No, she had no right to make that choice Ryan - 14/11/2009 03:54:35 AM 835 Views
Yes, it was her choice to make, and she is now responsible for the consequences. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/11/2009 06:24:46 PM 1298 Views
Since Rand did not perform any atrocities, Egwene by default (Existing) Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:22 PM 1094 Views
Its the difference between lodlom - 14/11/2009 02:59:42 AM 922 Views
Cannoli mentioned already - after balefire you can live again Skeeve the Great - 20/11/2009 03:38:06 AM 837 Views
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