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When teenagers were physically punished in schools guttering flame Send a noteboard - 18/11/2009 05:52:54 AM
No, wait, most people would break after even just days of that sort of treatment in the situation that she was in. With always that fear of not only torture, but execution should she put her foot wrong with the wrong person.

Right.


They didn't crumble after a few days of beatings/leash-strikes. They continued to defy the school authority for years.

And I wouldn't call a spanking torture. That's too strong a word for it.

The reason she doesn't crumble is that she doesn't see her situation as static and hopeless. That's a big part of how torture and its like work.
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Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) Matrimony Cauthon - 13/11/2009 06:22:50 PM 2481 Views
Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured Lordling - 13/11/2009 07:04:02 PM 1259 Views
That doesn't make her right, it makes her a coward *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:50 PM 645 Views
Your hatred and judgment of Egwene is obsessive and at times unreasonable. Like right now. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 14/11/2009 03:56:34 AM 623 Views
In this he his reasonable...I think he is mostly wrong with the statement, but it is reasonable *NM* RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:08:35 AM 527 Views
Wrong and unreasonable. krassos - 14/11/2009 11:07:16 PM 1215 Views
It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM 600 Views
"Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" krassos - 15/11/2009 02:45:21 PM 1007 Views
Re: "Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" guttering flame - 15/11/2009 03:14:27 PM 1148 Views
Because most people often get acclimated to being beaten 3 or more times a day. krassos - 17/11/2009 01:02:37 AM 1044 Views
When teenagers were physically punished in schools guttering flame - 18/11/2009 05:52:54 AM 1153 Views
Teenagers at school didn't spend hours a day getting spanked. Repeatedly. For weeks straight. krassos - 20/11/2009 02:13:38 AM 966 Views
Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens guttering flame - 13/11/2009 07:19:14 PM 1171 Views
Re: Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens Night Walker - 13/11/2009 07:25:14 PM 1107 Views
Forcible turning is not the only method guttering flame - 13/11/2009 08:28:08 PM 1205 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM 1226 Views
The point is guttering flame - 13/11/2009 11:00:58 PM 933 Views
They were tried. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:23:45 AM 467 Views
Mock trials guttering flame - 14/11/2009 08:06:14 AM 1090 Views
Proof? fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:09:14 AM 975 Views
That's the impression I got from Sheriam's 'trial' guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:44:09 AM 1036 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 06:55:54 PM 1058 Views
And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM 1152 Views
Ordinarily, I would disagree... RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 1197 Views
Re: Ordinarily, I would disagree... Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:04:37 AM 1098 Views
Except for the fact that she never served the Dark One. She was Black Ajah in name only. krassos - 21/11/2009 04:16:48 PM 978 Views
Not true. Verin did in fact serve the DO. She admited as much darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:28:56 AM 994 Views
They had trials. No mention of them presenting such evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:54:23 PM 487 Views
Forced turnings should be killed too Sidious - 15/11/2009 07:06:43 AM 1043 Views
Sad but true darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 05:05:08 PM 987 Views
Based on those two actions... entyti - 13/11/2009 08:01:32 PM 1208 Views
How was she going to protect the Tower and occupants then? NaClH2O - 13/11/2009 08:02:31 PM 1145 Views
There is a difference between collateral damage and targeting your own people! *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:56:10 PM 521 Views
She did not target her own people... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:39:14 AM 1037 Views
You seem to be contradicting yourself here guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:52:07 AM 1078 Views
Because they were indistinct specks high in the sky? *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:11:15 AM 468 Views
Considering the power she had in her hands guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:52:10 AM 1388 Views
That's ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 07:07:11 PM 1133 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:21:44 PM 1076 Views
typical cannoli double speak, she wasn't targeting her own people NaClH2O - 14/11/2009 01:46:10 AM 2620 Views
Nothing wrong with that. Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:11:15 AM 1119 Views
She does have first hand experience TheCrownless - 14/11/2009 07:52:20 PM 1095 Views
Dozens of dark sisters together...trapped like rats... krassos - 18/11/2009 12:29:19 AM 1037 Views
Re: Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) randfandom - 13/11/2009 08:16:29 PM 1076 Views
Neither is an atrocity... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:17:08 PM 1289 Views
this ^ *NM* Deadsy - 13/11/2009 08:34:10 PM 440 Views
Re: Neither is an atrocity... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 08:59:30 PM 1065 Views
Bull Sh!t! fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:00 PM 1156 Views
Come on now... Rand al'Thor - 13/11/2009 09:13:50 PM 1062 Views
Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:26:11 PM 1050 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:56:01 PM 973 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:08:06 PM 980 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM 1047 Views
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Re: Knightscape - 13/11/2009 11:16:58 PM 1038 Views
Re: fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:34:49 AM 934 Views
Re: Knightscape - 14/11/2009 01:46:51 AM 1018 Views
Yes your argument is very much Bull Sh!t Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:15:17 PM 1097 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:27:11 PM 1055 Views
Re: So... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:07:15 PM 939 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:09:43 PM 971 Views
Re: Not at all... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:54:14 PM 955 Views
Re: Not at all... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:36:36 AM 957 Views
Break out the inflatable balloon swords and have at it already! Ryan - 14/11/2009 02:14:47 AM 977 Views
Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/11/2009 09:17:14 PM 1157 Views
Re: Rand. Dragonsworn - 13/11/2009 10:56:04 PM 1273 Views
But that is not her choice to make. She has NO right to decide that for anyone. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:57:03 PM 508 Views
No, she had no right to make that choice Ryan - 14/11/2009 03:54:35 AM 926 Views
Yes, it was her choice to make, and she is now responsible for the consequences. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/11/2009 06:24:46 PM 1412 Views
Since Rand did not perform any atrocities, Egwene by default (Existing) Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:22 PM 1202 Views
Its the difference between lodlom - 14/11/2009 02:59:42 AM 1064 Views
Cannoli mentioned already - after balefire you can live again Skeeve the Great - 20/11/2009 03:38:06 AM 936 Views
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