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Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. urizen Send a noteboard - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM
Yes, Hawkwing included AS but he ran a meritocracy(Sp?). He didn't use them because they were AS but rather because they happened to be competent.

Also, It wasn't all Ishy that turned Hawkwing against the AS. The fact that the AS started to sabotage Hawkwing's rule by taking orders from Beonwhin(Sp?) rather than following the laws and guidelines from Hawking, whom as govenors they were to supposed to follow.
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1511 Views
They are politicians at heart... everynametaken - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 1086 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 533 Views
Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago? trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM 865 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* ajfurst - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 410 Views
What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM 434 Views
Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM* ajfurst - 18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM 416 Views
She is the Heir, not the daughter of the heir! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 05:24:24 PM 421 Views
As we found out, in painfully slow manner, she was neither! *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:31:02 PM 414 Views
Short answer: nope. Marshall - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 1063 Views
Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM 834 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 859 Views
rather.. urizen - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 984 Views
I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM 951 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. Onarishma - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 894 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. urizen - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 876 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine Onarishma - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 834 Views
But then.. urizen - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 909 Views
Kind of Sort of fairfax - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 867 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... Onarishma - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 810 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims redhand - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 2272 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1603 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 898 Views
Always help or contribute.....never do or lead..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM 802 Views
if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM* Onarishma - 17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM 466 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 803 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 1048 Views
You're asking the wrong question HyogaRott - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 855 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 849 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 478 Views
Scored using your words NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 958 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 837 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* Marshall - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 392 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 516 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 863 Views
They reduced her in power. TheCrownless - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 774 Views
Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM 850 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 782 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 756 Views
Have you read the books? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 795 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 780 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 862 Views
Oh dear! NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 754 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 722 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 918 Views
This is silly guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 796 Views
There is no misrepresentation NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 762 Views
The point I made is guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 752 Views
Are we speaking english? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 1002 Views
Not really BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 844 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 884 Views
OK NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 831 Views
No idea BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 807 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 928 Views
Well what do you think of BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 1026 Views
And another point NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 729 Views
For the sake of argument, though BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 802 Views
OK fair enough NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 792 Views
rAndy aL - 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 906 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 764 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 376 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 791 Views
Yeah right... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 744 Views
Yes, seriously rAndy aL - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 824 Views
It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends. BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM 799 Views
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