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Re: yep kcf Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM

Not really in Aginor's case. I have a hard time believing that you can draw so much power you kill yourself without first burning out (or at least simultaneous death/burnout).


Well, we don't know this and no connection between the has really been made. Plus, I like Sidious' idea that due to Aginor's weakened body, it wasn't capable of handling the channeling he's used to and that's a good part of the reason why he died.

As for Lanfear's burnout/stilling then being healed. A couple of points.

1. Don't you think it would have wound up being mentioned by one of the FS women if she had to heal a saidar connection? We've had POVs from all the potential candidates and realistically Semirhage seems like the only one with the inherent Talent to pull off the Healing. Moghedien is noted to be ridiculously blind to areas of the Power which she had little ability or interest in, so your assumption that she would have picked up the weave in the rebel camp is thin. One of the Rebels is possible.


I agree, which is why I think a random BA probably did the healing. But we've seen plenty of omission from FS POV, so I don't think it's a huge barrier. As Etzel points out, when Moggy is mindtrapped, Moridin already has Cyndane's mindtrap, so she didn't do it.

2. Taking Siuan and Leane as examples Cyndane would be so weakend by being healed by a woman that she wouldn't be anywhere close to Forsaken strength, much less stronger than Graendal or able to fend off Alivia with *angreal (Siuan lost 2/3 of her strength) ... if you assume a 100pt scale, Cyndane would have dropped down from 100 to 33, making her more like a regular AS (ish).


This is an issue. I think that the weave the Nyn discovered has been improved upon - it's still imperfect, but just a bit better. We just don't know enough about how much of strenth drop is involved.

3. Cyndane specifically points out the connection to her lowered power and her time spent with the 'Finns. Seems like a big hint in there somewhere.


Of course she does - she was burned out/severed as she enters finnland and somehow she died there. it's all tied up together.

Anyway, while I don't think your theory is impossible, I also don't know that I would call it the most simple explanation!


Well, it's simpler than any other explanation I've seen.
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Moiraine and Lanfear kcf - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 1935 Views
Healing, huh? Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 1222 Views
Re: Healing, huh? Nate - 01/12/2009 11:12:53 PM 1305 Views
yep kcf - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 1134 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 01:15:47 AM 1456 Views
Re: yep kcf - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM 1288 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 05:37:41 PM 1017 Views
I'm betting she decides to stay a non-channeler and put her past behind her. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/12/2009 11:09:32 PM 684 Views
I don't think Moiraine was stilled. Gher - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 1140 Views
what about Lan's bond kcf - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 1103 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. Gher - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 1182 Views
Not manually Knightscape - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 1015 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point BlackAdder - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 1033 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when beetnemesis - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 1057 Views
The doorway melting and snapping the bond is simple enough for me *NM* Deadsy - 01/12/2009 11:24:07 PM 546 Views
as I said above, far too many assumptions in that idea *NM* kcf - 01/12/2009 11:27:12 PM 569 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear Fred Gaidin - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 1072 Views
Not just an assumption. Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 1173 Views
Re: Not just an assumption. Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:45:26 PM 1082 Views
it can kcf - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 1135 Views
Re: it can Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 1244 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 1117 Views
but she'd been there before kcf - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 1176 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 1152 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 640 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond kcf - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 1185 Views
no more than the assumptions of the actions take on the other side of the door! darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:51:59 AM 1192 Views
My only complaint... Rand al'Thor - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 1072 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! The Name With No Man - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 1225 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 1325 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" Tom - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 1074 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" AliasRY - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 1136 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 569 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* Gher - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 584 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 1134 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 1098 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 1095 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 957 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 942 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 1221 Views
Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 1222 Views
It may be as simple as... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 1026 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 1008 Views
Not sexual, no... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM 1043 Views
Cairheinin to the Core. Joel - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 1095 Views
Haven't you people ever seen a contortionist? darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:12:20 PM 959 Views
I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 1018 Views
See Above. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 1201 Views
I doubt it kcf - 02/12/2009 08:55:23 PM 1063 Views
Maybe it's a wild goose chase. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 1195 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 1214 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: Gher - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1515 Views
Agreed, the angreal theory seems most likely IMO (about Lanfear/Cyndane) *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:39:55 AM 527 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... Sidious - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 1262 Views
On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 944 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 1000 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 1030 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 1192 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 1048 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 525 Views
I don't think they're equal Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 1020 Views
There is no deference, which would be expected in their "game" of hating each other darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:38:57 AM 1242 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... kcf - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 1325 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 957 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but Wotmaniac Reborn - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 1004 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. Gher - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 1036 Views
Moridin mentions it kcf - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 967 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 1019 Views
Moiraine will make a huge difference to TG (Min's viewing) so I think she will need to channel. *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:38:03 AM 559 Views
Min doesn't channel, and she makes a big difference. As does Thom. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 02/12/2009 09:57:10 AM 552 Views
agreed - Moiraine doesn't need to channel to make a difference *NM* kcf - 02/12/2009 04:38:50 PM 644 Views
Yub, I generally agree Etzel - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 954 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree kcf - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 1019 Views
I think it's cool! Etzel - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 976 Views
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