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The Wheel of Time's Great Themes, Edited to Include Those I See. The Name With No Man Send a noteboard - 06/12/2009 05:58:08 AM
Among scholars, students of literature are unusual in that their field is centuries old yet still not precisely defined by anyone. However, all agree great literature is more than just engaging writing. It has profundity and substance, communicates something important to the reader, not just todays reader, but readers 500 years from now. I'll post my own suggestions in a response below because I want everyone else's thoughts as well, uninfluenced by my own (indeed, two people have already noted "subthemes" that completely escaped me.)

At least half a dozen examples come easily to mind in TWoT though. I won't call it great literature because, though the definition remains vague, literature is more than just a didactic exercise. Certainly there's plenty of room between mindless pulp fiction and a literary opus, and far be it from me to say where in that spectrum WoT lies. I do think it unquestionable though that Jordan does more than spin a good yarn: He not only has something to say, but something worth hearing, something worth sharing, so I invite everyone to share what examples of that each of us sees.

There, with a minute to spare.
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The Wheel of Time's Great Themes, Edited to Include Those I See. - 06/12/2009 05:58:08 AM 827 Views
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Goodbye then! *NM* - 08/12/2009 06:45:25 PM 132 Views
Fair Enough. - 08/12/2009 07:02:04 PM 742 Views
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That Is a Great Shame. - 09/12/2009 01:27:44 PM 346 Views
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Tulkas Was All Brute Force. - 09/12/2009 02:48:46 PM 493 Views
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Arya Stark, yes... - 10/12/2009 08:48:32 AM 342 Views
Re: Arya Stark, yes... - 10/12/2009 04:56:07 PM 373 Views
Seems to me you've inverted it. - 08/12/2009 08:48:07 AM 334 Views
One Way or the Other Their WoT Origin Must Be the Stories We Know (Slight Spoiler Alert.) - 08/12/2009 03:18:30 PM 422 Views
I have no idea what you are trying to say, sorry. - 08/12/2009 08:12:35 PM 344 Views
I'll Try to Rephrase Then (Including the Spoiler. ) - 09/12/2009 12:49:55 PM 337 Views
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*Agrees 100%* - 07/12/2009 06:04:31 PM 339 Views
I Think He Set Out to Write Epic Fantasy, Yes. - 08/12/2009 04:25:36 PM 323 Views
Re: I Think He Set Out to Write Epic Fantasy, Yes. - 08/12/2009 07:26:30 PM 336 Views
True, and That Can Be Very Hard to Separate. - 09/12/2009 01:14:57 PM 426 Views

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