Fortuona didn't save Egwene and a Fourth Oath to an Empress is worse than what Elaida wanted.
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 08:18:17 PM
Egwene could have escaped or been rescued at any time; that was the whole point of why she had to continually assert her authority to prevent the Rebels from doing just that.
Also, a Fourth Oath of obedience to the Empress is one of the worst things that can happen.
I think that the main thing to keep in mind is that the Seanchan were created because of The Shadow's tampering with Hawkwing; they aren't an enlightened "meritocracy" because ultimate authority is centralized within one person to such a degree that this person can, at a whim, have random members of his or her court fitted with the a'dam for their pleasure.
Also, this government maintains loyalty through the use of a ter'angreal.
I don't think they have a model worth emulating.
Also, a Fourth Oath of obedience to the Empress is one of the worst things that can happen.
I think that the main thing to keep in mind is that the Seanchan were created because of The Shadow's tampering with Hawkwing; they aren't an enlightened "meritocracy" because ultimate authority is centralized within one person to such a degree that this person can, at a whim, have random members of his or her court fitted with the a'dam for their pleasure.
Also, this government maintains loyalty through the use of a ter'angreal.
I don't think they have a model worth emulating.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
The Empress and the oath rod
- 09/12/2009 07:25:36 PM
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wishful thinking if you ask me. The point is "freedom" from leashes. Having the take oaths is worse. *NM*
- 09/12/2009 07:46:35 PM
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I think we already know Egwene's position on a "Fourth Oath"
- 09/12/2009 08:17:11 PM
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I'd rather see them keep the a'dam, and just leash all the current sul'dam
- 18/12/2009 03:04:22 AM
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Fortuona didn't save Egwene and a Fourth Oath to an Empress is worse than what Elaida wanted.
- 09/12/2009 08:18:17 PM
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True, but...
- 09/12/2009 10:02:13 PM
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So you advocate slavery?
- 09/12/2009 11:12:29 PM
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C'mon!
- 09/12/2009 11:43:44 PM
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The "Binder" is another form of Slavery.
- 09/12/2009 11:54:51 PM
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Re: The "Binder" is another form of Slavery.
- 10/12/2009 12:09:31 AM
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We have 2 major WoT societies where the channelers
- 10/12/2009 12:15:58 AM
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Don't be so quick to judge these two societies yet.
- 10/12/2009 05:06:33 AM
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yet both groups hold highly influential positions within their societies without being shunned *NM*
- 10/12/2009 06:31:15 AM
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I don't know about being 'quick' - we've had at least 8 books to become familiar with the cultures
- 11/12/2009 03:18:32 PM
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I am thinking about straight oath without WT training.
- 09/12/2009 09:04:15 PM
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Or you could look to the organizations which have no "Binding" and no DFs
- 09/12/2009 11:17:18 PM
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Re: Or you could look to the organizations which have no "Binding" and no DFs
- 10/12/2009 12:00:03 AM
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I agree that there is no way the Seanchan are going to be able to change overnight
- 10/12/2009 12:12:00 AM
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I am sure that there are Blue Blood damane
- 10/12/2009 12:24:41 AM
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I agree.
- 10/12/2009 12:48:23 AM
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Of course not!
- 10/12/2009 01:13:10 AM
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When did Tuon save Egwene ? *NM*
- 10/12/2009 11:49:29 AM
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It refers to part of Egwene's dream that is yet unfulfilled. It COULD mean Tuon save her. *NM*
- 10/12/2009 03:46:15 PM
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