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Re: Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 11/12/2009 12:17:54 AM
I guess he "sowed some chaos," but at least on-screen, Demandred hasn't done anything major, so that's the only reason he isn't a failure.


And Demandred is at least the only Forsaken who never died, was never defeated by Rand & Co. (except for the Cleansing, but that was a group defeat) or humiliated by the DO/SH yet. That's not so bad!


Graendal has been in this category until her probably death by mega-balfefire in TGS...


Graendal is presumed dead (okay odds are heavily in favor of her beign gonzo) ... and really, Demandred might as well be dead for all the use he's been! Regardless, Demandred's being alive merely points out that the friggin coward is hanging around doing nothing! He's as bad as Moghedien!
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by Sidious on 11/12/2009 at 06:41:06 AM
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Two idiot Forsaken in the Prologue Sidious - 10/12/2009 04:31:10 PM 1571 Views
Oh you are being unfair! darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 04:49:31 PM 708 Views
LOL. Are you implying Mesaana killed Asmodean? *NM* Logain - 10/12/2009 07:13:27 PM 269 Views
That would be a funny twist, but in reality I think we all know darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 08:10:16 PM 568 Views
Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 04:56:32 PM 712 Views
Mesaana was motivated out of... Logain - 10/12/2009 07:16:43 PM 630 Views
Ah, then she would be more of an idiot than I thought. 2nd Rate indeed. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 08:19:05 PM 239 Views
Re: Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:47:43 AM 665 Views
But BS said that Shaidar Haran couldn't do things in the physical world without aid. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 03:20:59 PM 571 Views
I think that just proves SH isn't gay! *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/12/2009 04:07:47 PM 258 Views
Or it could just prove darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:42:33 PM 552 Views
Re: Or it could just prove RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 07:00:57 PM 482 Views
I agree, but I think it's about the DO being totally random darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:07:17 PM 565 Views
Did he say he could not touch things, or that he just could not counter uber-channeling? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:30:40 AM 503 Views
I don't ever want to find out who Demandred is Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:47:58 PM 506 Views
Imagine how bad it would be if BlackAdder - 11/12/2009 11:22:56 PM 503 Views
I would say... Etzel - 10/12/2009 04:58:15 PM 624 Views
he hasn't really done anything lankyevilme - 10/12/2009 05:25:03 PM 618 Views
But the point is valid darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 05:32:12 PM 755 Views
I'm pretty sure he did something... Etzel - 10/12/2009 05:33:04 PM 605 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure he did something... darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 07:51:25 PM 491 Views
Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* Etzel - 10/12/2009 08:29:24 PM 506 Views
Re: Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 12:17:54 AM 456 Views
I tend to agree Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:52:51 AM 617 Views
I think Demandred is pretty smart... Etzel - 11/12/2009 11:45:58 AM 523 Views
of course he's never set foot anywhere close to anything long enough darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 02:11:19 PM 490 Views
Is it smart to take a risk... Etzel - 11/12/2009 02:22:18 PM 476 Views
I think your making a lot of assumptions darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:40:47 PM 505 Views
Well... Etzel - 11/12/2009 06:04:47 PM 511 Views
Re: Well... darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:15:06 PM 640 Views
I agree that Demandred will fail in the end. Etzel - 12/12/2009 11:00:59 AM 501 Views
Either a Channeler or Mat darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:41:09 PM 426 Views
According to RJ... Sidious - 12/12/2009 12:32:12 PM 593 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:39:08 PM 507 Views
Re: makes you wonder Etzel - 12/12/2009 03:47:18 PM 480 Views
Thanks for the BS quote, that's new news to me! darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:55:37 PM 480 Views
Moridin didn't want to betrayal Sammael... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:07:49 PM 470 Views
It amounts to the same thing darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:12:42 PM 509 Views
Then you could also say... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM 467 Views
no actually you cannot darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:46:03 PM 467 Views
Ah, I give up... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:50:07 PM 471 Views
thanks for your permission darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:53:01 PM 482 Views
To be fair, Mesaana's brood of channelers promise could still come to fruition. *NM* RandAllThor - 10/12/2009 04:58:28 PM 277 Views
Yup, especially if she is a higher-up AS in the tower. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 05:57:12 PM 545 Views
Sanderson's first attempt at portraying the Forsaken based on character summaries in RJ's notes... Shannow - 10/12/2009 05:29:51 PM 691 Views
Well... Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:55:17 AM 528 Views
That was RJ's biggest flaw, IMO Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:45:41 PM 535 Views
I'll respond to someone who wants to say that beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:19:52 PM 586 Views
Ya. Fain's a good exception. I still have hopes for him. And... Thereva was scary, but... Deadsy - 11/12/2009 08:32:38 PM 482 Views
Slayer/Luc/Isam is also pretty cool. Lord Haart - 12/12/2009 04:16:14 PM 476 Views
One theme of tGS was "The Forsaken are actually pretty lame" beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:12:55 PM 524 Views
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