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Then you could also say... Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM
That Moridin betrayed the Shadow here, because Rand survived and will in the end defeat the DO.

That's nonsense. Fact is, Moridin simply didn't want that Rand died. He didn't care about Sammael or betraying him.
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Two idiot Forsaken in the Prologue Sidious - 10/12/2009 04:31:10 PM 1846 Views
Oh you are being unfair! darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 04:49:31 PM 965 Views
LOL. Are you implying Mesaana killed Asmodean? *NM* Logain - 10/12/2009 07:13:27 PM 386 Views
That would be a funny twist, but in reality I think we all know darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 08:10:16 PM 923 Views
Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 04:56:32 PM 971 Views
Mesaana was motivated out of... Logain - 10/12/2009 07:16:43 PM 884 Views
Ah, then she would be more of an idiot than I thought. 2nd Rate indeed. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 08:19:05 PM 374 Views
Re: Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:47:43 AM 972 Views
But BS said that Shaidar Haran couldn't do things in the physical world without aid. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 03:20:59 PM 874 Views
I think that just proves SH isn't gay! *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/12/2009 04:07:47 PM 383 Views
Or it could just prove darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:42:33 PM 782 Views
Re: Or it could just prove RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 07:00:57 PM 764 Views
I agree, but I think it's about the DO being totally random darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:07:17 PM 838 Views
Did he say he could not touch things, or that he just could not counter uber-channeling? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:30:40 AM 798 Views
I don't ever want to find out who Demandred is Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:47:58 PM 767 Views
Imagine how bad it would be if BlackAdder - 11/12/2009 11:22:56 PM 786 Views
I would say... Etzel - 10/12/2009 04:58:15 PM 873 Views
he hasn't really done anything lankyevilme - 10/12/2009 05:25:03 PM 867 Views
But the point is valid darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 05:32:12 PM 982 Views
I'm pretty sure he did something... Etzel - 10/12/2009 05:33:04 PM 876 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure he did something... darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 07:51:25 PM 746 Views
Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* Etzel - 10/12/2009 08:29:24 PM 776 Views
Re: Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 12:17:54 AM 744 Views
I tend to agree Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:52:51 AM 1021 Views
I think Demandred is pretty smart... Etzel - 11/12/2009 11:45:58 AM 808 Views
of course he's never set foot anywhere close to anything long enough darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 02:11:19 PM 790 Views
Is it smart to take a risk... Etzel - 11/12/2009 02:22:18 PM 755 Views
I think your making a lot of assumptions darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:40:47 PM 774 Views
Well... Etzel - 11/12/2009 06:04:47 PM 807 Views
Re: Well... darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:15:06 PM 939 Views
I agree that Demandred will fail in the end. Etzel - 12/12/2009 11:00:59 AM 778 Views
Either a Channeler or Mat darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:41:09 PM 678 Views
According to RJ... Sidious - 12/12/2009 12:32:12 PM 871 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:39:08 PM 788 Views
Re: makes you wonder Etzel - 12/12/2009 03:47:18 PM 773 Views
Thanks for the BS quote, that's new news to me! darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:55:37 PM 754 Views
Moridin didn't want to betrayal Sammael... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:07:49 PM 709 Views
It amounts to the same thing darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:12:42 PM 776 Views
Then you could also say... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM 700 Views
no actually you cannot darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:46:03 PM 719 Views
Ah, I give up... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:50:07 PM 739 Views
thanks for your permission darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:53:01 PM 746 Views
To be fair, Mesaana's brood of channelers promise could still come to fruition. *NM* RandAllThor - 10/12/2009 04:58:28 PM 395 Views
Yup, especially if she is a higher-up AS in the tower. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 05:57:12 PM 834 Views
Sanderson's first attempt at portraying the Forsaken based on character summaries in RJ's notes... Shannow - 10/12/2009 05:29:51 PM 955 Views
Well... Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:55:17 AM 817 Views
That was RJ's biggest flaw, IMO Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:45:41 PM 866 Views
I'll respond to someone who wants to say that beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:19:52 PM 876 Views
Ya. Fain's a good exception. I still have hopes for him. And... Thereva was scary, but... Deadsy - 11/12/2009 08:32:38 PM 768 Views
Slayer/Luc/Isam is also pretty cool. Lord Haart - 12/12/2009 04:16:14 PM 765 Views
One theme of tGS was "The Forsaken are actually pretty lame" beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:12:55 PM 820 Views
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