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Then you could also say... Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM
That Moridin betrayed the Shadow here, because Rand survived and will in the end defeat the DO.

That's nonsense. Fact is, Moridin simply didn't want that Rand died. He didn't care about Sammael or betraying him.
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Two idiot Forsaken in the Prologue Sidious - 10/12/2009 04:31:10 PM 1793 Views
Oh you are being unfair! darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 04:49:31 PM 903 Views
LOL. Are you implying Mesaana killed Asmodean? *NM* Logain - 10/12/2009 07:13:27 PM 361 Views
That would be a funny twist, but in reality I think we all know darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 08:10:16 PM 849 Views
Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 04:56:32 PM 922 Views
Mesaana was motivated out of... Logain - 10/12/2009 07:16:43 PM 834 Views
Ah, then she would be more of an idiot than I thought. 2nd Rate indeed. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 08:19:05 PM 349 Views
Re: Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:47:43 AM 912 Views
But BS said that Shaidar Haran couldn't do things in the physical world without aid. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 03:20:59 PM 803 Views
I think that just proves SH isn't gay! *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/12/2009 04:07:47 PM 341 Views
Or it could just prove darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:42:33 PM 739 Views
Re: Or it could just prove RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 07:00:57 PM 695 Views
I agree, but I think it's about the DO being totally random darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:07:17 PM 790 Views
Did he say he could not touch things, or that he just could not counter uber-channeling? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:30:40 AM 742 Views
I don't ever want to find out who Demandred is Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:47:58 PM 710 Views
Imagine how bad it would be if BlackAdder - 11/12/2009 11:22:56 PM 739 Views
I would say... Etzel - 10/12/2009 04:58:15 PM 828 Views
he hasn't really done anything lankyevilme - 10/12/2009 05:25:03 PM 817 Views
But the point is valid darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 05:32:12 PM 935 Views
I'm pretty sure he did something... Etzel - 10/12/2009 05:33:04 PM 817 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure he did something... darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 07:51:25 PM 698 Views
Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* Etzel - 10/12/2009 08:29:24 PM 723 Views
Re: Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 12:17:54 AM 703 Views
I tend to agree Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:52:51 AM 915 Views
I think Demandred is pretty smart... Etzel - 11/12/2009 11:45:58 AM 744 Views
of course he's never set foot anywhere close to anything long enough darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 02:11:19 PM 737 Views
Is it smart to take a risk... Etzel - 11/12/2009 02:22:18 PM 691 Views
I think your making a lot of assumptions darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:40:47 PM 715 Views
Well... Etzel - 11/12/2009 06:04:47 PM 753 Views
Re: Well... darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:15:06 PM 879 Views
I agree that Demandred will fail in the end. Etzel - 12/12/2009 11:00:59 AM 710 Views
Either a Channeler or Mat darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:41:09 PM 633 Views
According to RJ... Sidious - 12/12/2009 12:32:12 PM 794 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:39:08 PM 731 Views
Re: makes you wonder Etzel - 12/12/2009 03:47:18 PM 732 Views
Thanks for the BS quote, that's new news to me! darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:55:37 PM 692 Views
Moridin didn't want to betrayal Sammael... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:07:49 PM 663 Views
It amounts to the same thing darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:12:42 PM 728 Views
Then you could also say... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM 655 Views
no actually you cannot darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:46:03 PM 673 Views
Ah, I give up... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:50:07 PM 682 Views
thanks for your permission darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:53:01 PM 680 Views
To be fair, Mesaana's brood of channelers promise could still come to fruition. *NM* RandAllThor - 10/12/2009 04:58:28 PM 373 Views
Yup, especially if she is a higher-up AS in the tower. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 05:57:12 PM 781 Views
Sanderson's first attempt at portraying the Forsaken based on character summaries in RJ's notes... Shannow - 10/12/2009 05:29:51 PM 911 Views
Well... Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:55:17 AM 753 Views
That was RJ's biggest flaw, IMO Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:45:41 PM 770 Views
I'll respond to someone who wants to say that beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:19:52 PM 812 Views
Ya. Fain's a good exception. I still have hopes for him. And... Thereva was scary, but... Deadsy - 11/12/2009 08:32:38 PM 703 Views
Slayer/Luc/Isam is also pretty cool. Lord Haart - 12/12/2009 04:16:14 PM 722 Views
One theme of tGS was "The Forsaken are actually pretty lame" beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:12:55 PM 757 Views
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