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I agree Sidious Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM

She's the only Forsaken at the time that is trying to suss out Rand's abilities... and this attack seemed way too amateurish to the work of Demandred and far too upfront to be the work of Graendal

I wrote a whole theory on this topic, and it makes is a challenge prove now that Semirhage is dead.

Moridin says that Sammael is alive, and Demandred immediately says that's nonsense because Sammael liked to be the center of attention. When Semirhage probes about the attack, Moridin says that it was Sammael who sent the Trollocs. At this point, Demandred realized that he'd made a huge error because he already knew about Semirhage's plan to attack Rand - he didn't know that she'd used a disguise in the form of Sammael. He therefore said he'd been wrong, to try and correct the situation, and it caused a stir.

Of course the other possibility is that Fain gained Sammael's influence over the Shadow when mashadar absorbed him. BS commented that the DO would not resurrect Sammael because something nasty had happened to his soul, so this might be the reason.

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Part of a mystery from KoD is solved Logain - 14/12/2009 08:37:45 PM 1541 Views

Only SH can distinguish saidin and saidar Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:46:31 PM 906 Views

I think this Mydraal in question was Shaidar Haran 1.5, was it not? I don't remember. *NM* Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:50:24 PM 336 Views

SH obviously wasn't one of the Myrddraal, who were ordered by "Sammael" to attack Rand. *NM* Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:53:43 PM 293 Views

Graendal's streith gown gives a lot away... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:53:49 PM 1563 Views

Yes... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:00:26 PM 742 Views

Why would she be worried about that if she ordered it, though? BlackAdder - 15/12/2009 02:01:10 AM 689 Views

I think she excludes herself in TGS Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:39:18 AM 854 Views

Very interesting argument... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:49:08 PM 808 Views

Alviarin's Mark doesn't give her control over shadowspawn. RJ told us this in a Q&A. Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:49:50 PM 663 Views

Link please to the RJ quote. *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:31:06 PM 262 Views

Here is the quote: Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:35:34 PM 635 Views

Thanks! So we can eliminate Alviarrin for sure! *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:50:05 PM 253 Views

I always thought it was Demandred kcf - 14/12/2009 08:59:01 PM 1057 Views

I saw Demandred's comment to mean the following: Shannow - 14/12/2009 09:07:26 PM 776 Views

I also interpreted... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:17:19 PM 645 Views

I've always thought it was Semirhage's doing darius_sedai - 14/12/2009 09:39:18 PM 640 Views

I agree Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM 746 Views

In my view... Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:32:18 AM 612 Views

Graendal is low on my list Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:47:20 PM 650 Views

Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Etzel - 15/12/2009 01:58:34 PM 666 Views

Re: Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:21:07 PM 866 Views

But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:42:27 PM 674 Views

Re: But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:01:40 PM 611 Views

I think it makes perfect sense Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:20:28 PM 583 Views

Two things... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:03:23 PM 642 Views

Re: Two things... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:24:42 PM 719 Views

Let's look at purpose and method... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:34:36 PM 699 Views

I don't think it makes much sense that this was a test Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:20:52 AM 668 Views

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I wrote a whole theory on this topic, and it makes is a challenge prove now that Semirhage is dead.

Moridin says that Sammael is alive, and Demandred immediately says that's nonsense because Sammael liked to be the center of attention. When Semirhage probes about the attack, Moridin says that it was Sammael who sent the Trollocs. At this point, Demandred realized that he'd made a huge error because he already knew about Semirhage's plan to attack Rand - he didn't know that she'd used a disguise in the form of Sammael. He therefore said he'd been wrong, to try and correct the situation, and it caused a stir.

Of course the other possibility is that Fain gained Sammael's influence over the Shadow when mashadar absorbed him. BS commented that the DO would not resurrect Sammael because something nasty had happened to his soul, so this might be the reason.
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