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So RJ used two separate scales, one actual one relative, to explain the same thing? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 11:33:20 PM
Bell curves are usually not centered on the mean or median. This is a statistical fact.

In order for a distribution to be a bell curve it is, by definition, centered on its mean.

From The Wikipedia article "Normal distribution"
In probability theory and statistics, the normal distribution or Gaussian distribution is a continuous probability distribution that describes data that cluster around the mean. The graph of the associated probability density function is bell-shaped, with a peak at the mean, and is known as the Gaussian function or bell curve.


I propose that the Bell Curve is cut by zero at around 2 standard deviations below the mean. In other words, while it is a perfect Bell Curve, you'd have to draw the bottom portion of it as an imaginary curve below zero strength.

If not that, then it must be a relative scale, where each movement away from the mean is a proportional one, rather than an absolute one.

Remember, RJ's 21 level scale isn't supposed to be superimposed on the Bell Curve. The Bell Curve is merely another, independent tool to represent the channeling population.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength Shannow - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1782 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided Asha'man Warder - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 1071 Views
The Curve only refers to the channeling population, not to non-channelers. Shannow - 18/12/2009 01:56:25 PM 1063 Views
I would say that your sample is flawed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM 1152 Views
well said *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 549 Views
It doesn't matter... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM 995 Views
But, it sort of does. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM 1060 Views
So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM 1223 Views
Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM 1117 Views
The Tower is restricted to the middle... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM 1198 Views
Two things... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM 1083 Views
The culling theory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM 1006 Views
The culling theory applies to the ENTIRE population, not just Aes Sedai... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:42:31 PM 1133 Views
Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 1212 Views
Re: Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:06:15 PM 992 Views
Several more things... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM 1162 Views
You don't understand your own model... Shannow - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 1196 Views
So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM 1045 Views
Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? Sidious - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 1032 Views
Its simple really... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 1093 Views
So, Aviendha trumps RJ? A woman who, as late as tGS, doesn't know what she's doing with the OP? fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:12:42 PM 1021 Views
Age-Related Sample Bias Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 1023 Views
I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM 1122 Views
Partially agreed... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM 1021 Views
Well, the Aes Sedai are the only group that we have detailed strength info about... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:26:48 PM 1172 Views
Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM 1005 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 1015 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 1032 Views
Yes... Phelix - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 1126 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? Gher - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 992 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 993 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 1085 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 1027 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 1272 Views
Agree, but a little more curvy is better amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 958 Views
*facepalm* BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 10:13:16 PM 1045 Views
That's just the normalized value graphed on a log scale. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:20:41 PM 1008 Views
Dude, Seriously? Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 1022 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 1060 Views
So RJ used two separate scales, one actual one relative, to explain the same thing? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:33:20 PM 1044 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 1028 Views
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of a non-Gaussian bell curve. Can you prove its existence? *NM* fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 03:24:22 AM 546 Views
Maybe people in my field just use the term in a non-technical way. We do things with ... amirebram - 21/12/2009 07:24:43 PM 975 Views
It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 1103 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 997 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 568 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1311 Views
You can have IQ's above that... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 1049 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 512 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 1012 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre Kieran - 19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM 971 Views
I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 1261 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 556 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 960 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: taura-tierno - 27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM 1144 Views
What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1343 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? taura-tierno - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 1029 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 1237 Views
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