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Sorry, but that is utter nonsense Etzel Send a noteboard - 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM
You certainly have the freedom to make a supposition that it was, but we have no evidence at all that the mark was made with either Power.

It can simply be a case of Shaidar Haran being able to manipulate time/space in a way further developed than most Myrdraal.

After all, only channelers can access the True Power, and we've seen no evidence that the Dark One can make it available to Shadowspawn. The best evidence we have is that Shaidar Haran has physical limitations regarding what it can touch and how - Elza was doing most of the actual moving in TGS. If SH had access to the TP, it could have 1) removed the Compulsion in Elza's mind itself or 2) moved objects/people physically with the TP.

Whatever SH can do, it does not seem to be related to the One Power or the True Power in a readily apparent way.


One really has to wonder, if you actually read the books.. :[

To explain it to you: The DO basically is the TP. While SH doesn't channel as a channeler, he obviously still uses the TP, since he is the Dark One in shadowy form (and thus restricted). The DO also basically uses the TP, not some other power, as you seem to believe. And therefore Slayer's powers obviously come from the TP as well. *sigh*
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Fain's Myrddraal Etzel - 28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM 2048 Views
Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM* Lordling - 28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM 543 Views
except, of course, for Shaidar Haran *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:12:17 PM 527 Views
But what was the purpose then? Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM 1000 Views
To show the relationship between Fain and DO Bonden - 28/12/2009 03:52:59 PM 966 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:02:42 PM 1011 Views
Re: Maybe... Bonden - 29/12/2009 03:58:57 AM 1231 Views
Re: Fain's Myrddraal RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM 990 Views
Slayer also hunts Rand Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM 1032 Views
I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM 922 Views
The explanations Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM 1178 Views
Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM 1127 Views
Your reaction would be similar to BS's then Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM 2043 Views
I don't really have a strong opinion on which suspect did it darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:03:07 PM 926 Views
Well... Etzel - 28/12/2009 06:42:16 PM 970 Views
Indeed *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:55:52 PM 474 Views
Re: The explanations RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM 867 Views
The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM 965 Views
Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM 1045 Views
The reason is... Etzel - 29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM 983 Views
The reasoning is very weak. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM 1004 Views
If you mean... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM 1090 Views
A few points darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM 922 Views
You are wrong... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM 919 Views
Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM 1009 Views
Key word - "possibly" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM 921 Views
As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM 890 Views
Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 819 Views
Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad. Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM 906 Views
I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts" darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM 824 Views
Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM 861 Views
I think you are stretching the reality a bit darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM 909 Views
You confuse it a bit... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM 974 Views
I think you've got it backwards darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM 878 Views
However... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM 912 Views
I wasn't arguing that point darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM 1145 Views
Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear... *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM 879 Views
clearly they do since people are discussing it! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:37:00 PM 844 Views
Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM 940 Views
Sorry, but that is utter nonsense Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM 1031 Views
You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 984 Views
Simply read the books and what the authors said... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM 920 Views
Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM 891 Views
Ok, then we play dumb, if you like... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM 1005 Views
Because the Dark One is not merely a super channeler. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:21:21 PM 1019 Views
Well, I disagree of course... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:36:19 PM 1159 Views
You are mistaken on quite a few counts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM 1059 Views
Actually... Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM 974 Views
BWB says... darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM 1216 Views
Exactly. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:30 PM 464 Views
Well... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM 1040 Views
Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM 930 Views
No... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM 1151 Views
Re: No... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM 1102 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM 866 Views
So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM 895 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM 827 Views
I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM 916 Views
Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:16:50 PM 783 Views
Re: Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 09:21:23 PM 879 Views
She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM 462 Views
Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM 769 Views
Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it? darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM 1005 Views
I don't say... Etzel - 30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM 1107 Views
Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC darius_sedai - 30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM 996 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM 909 Views
It becomes clear... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM 826 Views
Basically, you think Slayer killed him. I do not. Nor do I care. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:04:20 PM 792 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:17:22 PM 505 Views
Re: Slayer also hunts Rand RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM 1106 Views
As said... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM 894 Views
Re: As said... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM 886 Views
It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM 878 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 09:45:08 PM 964 Views
Re: makes you wonder RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:16:57 PM 962 Views
I think... Etzel - 29/12/2009 12:03:41 PM 868 Views
Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM* aldapelan - 29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM 523 Views
It is quite obvious that it was Mistress Laras. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:35:36 PM 485 Views
Intuitively, even. *NM* Gher - 29/12/2009 06:03:13 PM 464 Views
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