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Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious Send a noteboard - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM
I deleted the arguments that are purely opinion... no use going in circles over the our personal interpretations ... suffice to say I disagree with how you take words like "amazing" to mean Nynaeve must be 2x as strong. And we've not got a comparative quote about how brightly Egwene or Elayne shine, in fact we've never even seen them draw to full potential unaided so it's practically impossible to use quotes like that to quantify their strength.


Well for myself, I'd call a man amazing if he was physically twice as strong as me. If he was 20% stronger, I'd even consider challenging him.

In short, RJ's choice of adjectives doesn't cut it for me


I think they're valuable clues. *cough* bonfire.

Elayne and Egwene also comment on how massively complex Healing seems at one point or another, yet now they are re-discovering Traveling and making Ter'angreal. Egwene notes how she thought she'd never be able to weave 12 flows at once, yet now she can ... IMO Nynaeve and Rand started out at very close to full potential early in the series and Egwene/Elayne started from scratch.


Bah.

She flat out states that lifting them both would take half of the saidar in the Well. Seems pretty straight forward to me.


I'm saying that the well may have a limitation on how quickly it can be drawn upon.

We're talking brute force here, not some intricate weave, skill isn't exactly necessary to pick something up and move it.


What's recurrently mentioned as one of the hardest things to do in channeling?

Yet Egwene hoisted the SF women "Some ten or twelve paces above the surface" that's 3 or more Stories of a building. Even the Palaces in WoT are described as only about 4 Stories tall ... Nynaeve was only lifting Rand and Lan to a 3rd floor room, that's pretty much the exact same height Egwene describes.


Lol, this is getting kind of amusing. I thought the building was high - Rand said if he fell he'd die.
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as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 1290 Views
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I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 1271 Views
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The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 1032 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 1120 Views
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Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 1161 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 1174 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 987 Views
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Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 1029 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 1061 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 659 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 1342 Views
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