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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM
Did she obtain any news on the other Forsaken? Demandred's plans? Anything?

If not, I find the justification for Semirhage's breakdown and humiliation from a plot perspective even more unconvincing.

It's purpose was supposedly for the Light to gain vital information from her. But in the end, it seems her aura as the ultimate Forsaken badass was destroyed for no plot purpose whatsoever.

She could still have captured Rand with the adam if she had just escaped from captivity without being broken by Cadsuane.

So other than meet RJ's need for "Bad Guy Humiliation", the destruction of her reputation was for nothing.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1245 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 671 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 252 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 506 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 531 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 223 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 566 Views
That argument is wrong... - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 496 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 456 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 548 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 458 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 550 Views
Well... - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 521 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 485 Views
I doubt... - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 439 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 473 Views
Maybe and maybe not - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 465 Views
What Datakim said... - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 500 Views
Funny when reading that chapter - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 584 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 236 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 226 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 233 Views
you are likely correct *NM* - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 265 Views
IMO: Yes. - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 554 Views
I think... - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 528 Views
I have doubts about this. - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 531 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 393 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 487 Views
Just one - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 530 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 219 Views
Yes - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 471 Views

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