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I think... Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM
It would explain her eagnerness to pay back Rand and why Shaidar Haran said she was broken; I don't think Shaidar Haran cared about her getting spanked: what it was concerned with was that Semirhage talked under interrogation. The information they gained may not be supremely important, but perhaps this is how Cadsuane and the Wise Ones knew Tam was with Perrin. I don't really see any other satisfactory answer for their access to this knowledge besides the Shadow's persavive information network.


The Wise Ones learned that Tam stays with Perrin via contacting the dreams of the WO with Perrin or simply through Sulin (apparently the WO fetched Sulin at some point from Perrin's group to get a report about the Shaido, etc.). Eventually they told Cadsuane about it.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1639 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 1079 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 431 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 928 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 932 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 412 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 1020 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 932 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 866 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 957 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 882 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 976 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 947 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 928 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 826 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 933 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 826 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 927 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 995 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 418 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 406 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 415 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 447 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 952 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 1012 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 839 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 953 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 951 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 987 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 933 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 420 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 855 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 429 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 873 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 954 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 900 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 401 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 846 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 926 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 1011 Views
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