That the Shadow considers that the Pattern will anyway counter anything they do, because otherwise the Pattern would also find a way to counter Rand's TP use, basically the Shadow could already announce that they have already lost then. Plus, the Shadow also wanted to kill Rand at the Cleansing, which shows that they don't care that much about the Pattern (which is anyway in flux and unstable now). Besides, especially Moridin and SH seemed genuine in their desire to capture Rand in TGS. Nothing suggests that Rand wouldn't be at SG now, if Semirage had immediately brought him there (and Moridin & SH couldn't really anticipate that Semirhage wouldn't follow their orders immediately). At least the DO could have waited till Rand truly killed Min to give him the permission to use the TP, because Rand certainly would have been even more unstable then.
For this reasons I seriously doubt that the DO gave Rand the permission, but that Rand used Moridin's access.
For this reasons I seriously doubt that the DO gave Rand the permission, but that Rand used Moridin's access.
This message last edited by Etzel on 13/01/2010 at 08:07:56 AM
Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown?
- 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM
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I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage...
- 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM
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Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM*
- 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM
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Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended
- 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM
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It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP
- 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM
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i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM*
- 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM
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Rand was captured and helpless...
- 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM
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That argument is wrong...
- 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM
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Re: That argument is wrong...
- 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM
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Re: That argument is wrong...
- 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM
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A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead.
- 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM
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I doubt...
- 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM
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IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT.
- 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM
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Funny when reading that chapter
- 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM
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We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM*
- 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM
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I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV
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- 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM
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- 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM
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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown?
- 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM
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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown?
- 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM
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But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did?
- 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM
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IMO: Yes.
- 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM
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I think...
- 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM
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I have doubts about this.
- 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM
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But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.?
- 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM
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Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM*
- 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM
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Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand.
- 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM
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I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM*
- 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM
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Just one
- 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM
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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown?
- 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM
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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown?
- 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM
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