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I think... Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM
It would explain her eagnerness to pay back Rand and why Shaidar Haran said she was broken; I don't think Shaidar Haran cared about her getting spanked: what it was concerned with was that Semirhage talked under interrogation. The information they gained may not be supremely important, but perhaps this is how Cadsuane and the Wise Ones knew Tam was with Perrin. I don't really see any other satisfactory answer for their access to this knowledge besides the Shadow's persavive information network.


The Wise Ones learned that Tam stays with Perrin via contacting the dreams of the WO with Perrin or simply through Sulin (apparently the WO fetched Sulin at some point from Perrin's group to get a report about the Shaido, etc.). Eventually they told Cadsuane about it.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1435 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 857 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 329 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 693 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 716 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 302 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 742 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 694 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 647 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 734 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 644 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 736 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 700 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 674 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 597 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 735 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 650 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 699 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 766 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 308 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 306 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 307 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 341 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 736 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 760 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 614 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 734 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 714 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 745 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 685 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 315 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 649 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 317 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 591 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 685 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 690 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 296 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 656 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 700 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 734 Views
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