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Yeah, SH is a wildcard BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM
It was locked and warded by Caddy. Only she knew where it was, until she showed it to Sorilea and Bair.

I'm betting SH "sniffed it out". Elza was at the Cleansing and knew Caddy had it. Obviously he circumvented the wards, (Sorilea was closing the door when Caddy dismantled them so it couldn't have been her) and if he did that it probably wasn't beyond him to sniff out were it was. Don't forget that even run of the mill fades can detect channeling.

NaCl(SH, in the bedroom with his nose)H2O


we don't know everything he's capable of and he could certainly have done something himself, like unravel weaves. He does have the power to shield after all.

but it seems speculative so I just have it in the back of my mind for now.

btw, long time no post - welcome back
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM 2945 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM 1424 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM 1387 Views
I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM 1215 Views
Heh, you ironically misspelled "spell" *NM* Gher - 14/01/2010 04:47:55 AM 715 Views
RJ was Aes Sedai to the core! darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM 1330 Views
It's funny, but I know very few women (none) IRL who act like AS, but RJ definitely fits their MO RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 05:00:00 PM 1214 Views
I don't think I've ever heard a woman actually "sniff" at someone either darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:09:07 PM 1217 Views
I was under the impression that SH got the Band DREWRULESWOT! - 14/01/2010 09:10:48 AM 1184 Views
I, too, have suspicions ... Yondaime - 13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM 1403 Views
I agree! darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM 1195 Views
I doubt that there is anything in the book .... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 02:58:47 AM 1144 Views
Re: I doubt that there is anything in the book .... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:44:39 AM 1043 Views
Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread. amirebram - 13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM 1244 Views
Why couldn't have Elza got them? brett014 - 13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM 1299 Views
Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM 1351 Views
IMO Bair is also a suspect darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:18:15 AM 1165 Views
SH has all kinds of strange powers NaClH2O - 14/01/2010 05:52:06 PM 992 Views
Yeah, SH is a wildcard BlackAdder - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM 1118 Views
Re: Why couldn't have Elza got them? amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:12:07 PM 1066 Views
It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM 1192 Views
The whole forum is full of spoilers *NM* darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:11:38 AM 663 Views
Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM 656 Views
He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM 1082 Views
Exactly. I have this thing with theories ... amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 1117 Views
then how do you read the forums at all? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM 1090 Views
With caution. amirebram - 14/01/2010 07:41:39 PM 1153 Views
I'm kind of the opposite I guess darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:50:36 PM 1133 Views
My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF Etzel - 13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM 1335 Views
My gut agrees with your gut. *NM* Shishka - 13/01/2010 01:31:08 PM 561 Views
Great guts think alike! *NM* Etzel - 13/01/2010 03:06:29 PM 544 Views
And fool guts, seldom differ! *NM* Insomdeon - 13/01/2010 05:10:41 PM 593 Views
My gut would have gotten me killed in WOT amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:18:15 PM 1090 Views
Haha I love how the DFs are coming from all over the place! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:57:19 PM 628 Views
Me neither Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:30:27 PM 1002 Views
I don't think so Sidious - 13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM 1162 Views
perhaps, but Semirhage is also in disgrace darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 06:53:04 PM 1081 Views
Actually it was very much like a DF amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM 1267 Views
I don't buy it Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM 1002 Views
the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM 1166 Views
Moiraine said as much to Egwene long before that Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:07:20 AM 1146 Views
we'll just have to RAFO darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:13:17 PM 982 Views
Actually, it's not about who stole it. It's about how Elza knew where it was AND amirebram - 15/01/2010 05:53:08 PM 1108 Views
Not quite, IMO BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM 1117 Views
and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM 1172 Views
Exactly BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:58:46 PM 1113 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? Gerbeaud - 13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM 978 Views
Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM 1141 Views
Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM 1054 Views
inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM 1030 Views
As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM 1115 Views
Re: As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM 1071 Views
Did you see what you wrote? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 1138 Views
The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM 1012 Views
She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 05:10:58 PM 1070 Views
Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM 1096 Views
How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM 953 Views
so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time? darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM 1258 Views
Very possible. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 09:14:21 PM 472 Views
Bair is at least as strong a suspect darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:17:27 PM 1104 Views
I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:34:21 PM 903 Views
That's a bit of a leap. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:55:36 PM 803 Views
Re: I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory ajah - 17/01/2010 10:03:13 AM 1328 Views
Re: Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity Gerbeaud - 14/01/2010 02:42:47 AM 1132 Views
I think Bsand or RJ stated that Shaidar Haran could not do that himself, which is why he needed Elza darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:47:04 AM 1084 Views
I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord. Gher - 14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM 1141 Views
Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM 1052 Views
Sure Gher - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM 1047 Views
certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM 978 Views
I agree. Gher - 14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM 1011 Views
this scene does happen before she is "sure" of Cadsuane darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:07:19 PM 943 Views
Alright. Gher - 14/01/2010 06:17:18 PM 1108 Views
This would be a great development. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 1087 Views
that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect kcf - 14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM 1137 Views
IMO either she or Bair are a DF darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM 1163 Views
this is pure RJ kcf - 14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM 1343 Views
True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it" darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM 1082 Views
Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together? Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM 1029 Views
yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* kcf - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM 764 Views
Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1448 Views
Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:08:13 AM 8239 Views
and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM 988 Views
Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? Sidious - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 1075 Views
I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM 1073 Views
Yes, Kadere and that Aiel chick. DREWRULESWOT! - 15/01/2010 12:15:42 AM 952 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? ajah - 17/01/2010 10:07:11 AM 1115 Views
I wish it were so, but one of the FAQ's destroys this clue Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 03:01:47 PM 1080 Views
there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:07:04 PM 1119 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 05:28:08 PM 1061 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:34:58 PM 1081 Views
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