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Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? Sidious Send a noteboard - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM
If Sorilea is a darkfriend then she needed to be told about Elza. The only way this could happen would be if one of the Forsaken was involved.

It's very odd that it was forbidden by Moridin to help Semirhage, a fact that he repeats to Rand. And yet we see SH arrive later using the BA. Moridin either changed his mind and decided to free her/set her up, or SH works alone and doesn't care what the Nae'blis thinks, or this is the work of Mesaana or another Forsaken who managed to get SH to help them.



Look at the evidence ...SH was involved, and someone clearly taught Elza AoL weaving ... why would you think a Forsaken wasn't involved??


Because Moridin said it was forbidden to help Semirhage.


Moridin states that long before she's broken and a possible threat. Do you really think any of them would say no to SH?


I'm saying that Moridin clearly said it was forbidden to help Semirhage, and later SH arrived to help her. It's a contrast in orders, or Moridin changed his mind.
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM 2924 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM 1403 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM 1361 Views
I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM 1189 Views
Heh, you ironically misspelled "spell" *NM* Gher - 14/01/2010 04:47:55 AM 699 Views
RJ was Aes Sedai to the core! darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM 1310 Views
It's funny, but I know very few women (none) IRL who act like AS, but RJ definitely fits their MO RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 05:00:00 PM 1186 Views
I don't think I've ever heard a woman actually "sniff" at someone either darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:09:07 PM 1189 Views
I was under the impression that SH got the Band DREWRULESWOT! - 14/01/2010 09:10:48 AM 1158 Views
I, too, have suspicions ... Yondaime - 13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM 1356 Views
I agree! darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM 1161 Views
I doubt that there is anything in the book .... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 02:58:47 AM 1124 Views
Re: I doubt that there is anything in the book .... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:44:39 AM 1017 Views
Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread. amirebram - 13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM 1220 Views
Why couldn't have Elza got them? brett014 - 13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM 1277 Views
Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM 1310 Views
IMO Bair is also a suspect darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:18:15 AM 1135 Views
SH has all kinds of strange powers NaClH2O - 14/01/2010 05:52:06 PM 951 Views
Yeah, SH is a wildcard BlackAdder - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM 1096 Views
Re: Why couldn't have Elza got them? amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:12:07 PM 1042 Views
It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM 1169 Views
The whole forum is full of spoilers *NM* darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:11:38 AM 651 Views
Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM 642 Views
He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM 1050 Views
Exactly. I have this thing with theories ... amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 1092 Views
then how do you read the forums at all? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM 1049 Views
With caution. amirebram - 14/01/2010 07:41:39 PM 1132 Views
I'm kind of the opposite I guess darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:50:36 PM 1102 Views
My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF Etzel - 13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM 1307 Views
My gut agrees with your gut. *NM* Shishka - 13/01/2010 01:31:08 PM 549 Views
Great guts think alike! *NM* Etzel - 13/01/2010 03:06:29 PM 532 Views
And fool guts, seldom differ! *NM* Insomdeon - 13/01/2010 05:10:41 PM 577 Views
My gut would have gotten me killed in WOT amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:18:15 PM 1065 Views
Haha I love how the DFs are coming from all over the place! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:57:19 PM 612 Views
Me neither Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:30:27 PM 980 Views
I don't think so Sidious - 13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM 1133 Views
perhaps, but Semirhage is also in disgrace darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 06:53:04 PM 1058 Views
Actually it was very much like a DF amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM 1244 Views
I don't buy it Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM 976 Views
the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM 1118 Views
Moiraine said as much to Egwene long before that Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:07:20 AM 1121 Views
we'll just have to RAFO darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:13:17 PM 948 Views
Actually, it's not about who stole it. It's about how Elza knew where it was AND amirebram - 15/01/2010 05:53:08 PM 1087 Views
Not quite, IMO BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM 1090 Views
and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM 1148 Views
Exactly BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:58:46 PM 1081 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? Gerbeaud - 13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM 951 Views
Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM 1120 Views
Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM 1009 Views
inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM 995 Views
As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM 1091 Views
Re: As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM 1042 Views
Did you see what you wrote? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 1101 Views
The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM 981 Views
She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 05:10:58 PM 1046 Views
Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM 1071 Views
How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM 932 Views
so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time? darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM 1210 Views
Very possible. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 09:14:21 PM 458 Views
Bair is at least as strong a suspect darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:17:27 PM 1069 Views
I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:34:21 PM 879 Views
That's a bit of a leap. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:55:36 PM 778 Views
Re: I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory ajah - 17/01/2010 10:03:13 AM 1294 Views
Re: Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity Gerbeaud - 14/01/2010 02:42:47 AM 1097 Views
I think Bsand or RJ stated that Shaidar Haran could not do that himself, which is why he needed Elza darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:47:04 AM 1051 Views
I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord. Gher - 14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM 1114 Views
Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM 1024 Views
Sure Gher - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM 1024 Views
certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM 957 Views
I agree. Gher - 14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM 970 Views
this scene does happen before she is "sure" of Cadsuane darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:07:19 PM 911 Views
Alright. Gher - 14/01/2010 06:17:18 PM 1084 Views
This would be a great development. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 1057 Views
that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect kcf - 14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM 1092 Views
IMO either she or Bair are a DF darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM 1133 Views
this is pure RJ kcf - 14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM 1301 Views
True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it" darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM 1061 Views
Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together? Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM 996 Views
yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* kcf - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM 736 Views
Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1418 Views
Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:08:13 AM 8216 Views
and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM 961 Views
Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? Sidious - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 1049 Views
I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM 1042 Views
Yes, Kadere and that Aiel chick. DREWRULESWOT! - 15/01/2010 12:15:42 AM 926 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? ajah - 17/01/2010 10:07:11 AM 1073 Views
I wish it were so, but one of the FAQ's destroys this clue Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 03:01:47 PM 1056 Views
there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:07:04 PM 1096 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 05:28:08 PM 1039 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:34:58 PM 1042 Views
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