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Re: In the AoL... Shishka Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 07:17:55 PM
It is possible that there was a clause in each Oath that the criminal wouldn't remove it unless given permission by the Hall.


It seems like that would require 2 oaths - one not to repeat the offense, and one not to remove the first oath. And, the impression I have is that AoL criminals only swore one oath (didn't Sammael sort of imply that, when he was talking about the Ageless look to Graendal?).

But it's possible, I agree. In fact, RJ may very well have given such an answer, if someone had challenged him re why his TAR oath rod response would have made Binders worthless in the AoL.
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Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod Shishka - 18/01/2010 04:50:29 PM 2659 Views
I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye Sidious - 18/01/2010 05:12:12 PM 1302 Views
Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye HyogaRott - 18/01/2010 05:43:26 PM 1207 Views
I like that idea ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1091 Views
A little archaic though Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:58:04 PM 1080 Views
Just because she's an academic ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:27:50 PM 1190 Views
Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye Shishka - 18/01/2010 05:58:44 PM 1071 Views
I don't think Messana would have fallen over dead Ryan - 18/01/2010 06:06:35 PM 1125 Views
I agree ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:15:25 PM 1012 Views
I'm not sure Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:54:51 PM 1030 Views
It didn't when Romanda retook her Oaths in TGS darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:13:20 PM 861 Views
Hmmm ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:24:51 PM 1031 Views
No she unswore them and retook them darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:33:30 PM 1076 Views
Yeah, I realized that after I posted, so I editted my post (again) ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:36:39 PM 1045 Views
I'm not sure I follow darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:41:19 PM 1053 Views
The point I was trying to make was ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:05:16 PM 841 Views
Now I get it ... seems needlessly complex for the Oath Rod though darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 08:21:35 PM 830 Views
Yes, this is what I was thinking *NM* PhoenixReborn - 18/01/2010 08:29:20 PM 411 Views
What you suggested is pretty much what I've always thought ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:39:30 PM 848 Views
yup darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 09:02:04 PM 737 Views
I'm with you, though ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 09:27:59 PM 1005 Views
The closest evidence we have is a Stilled/Burned out woman darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 09:49:41 PM 849 Views
But if being unbound reverts you to your normal lifespan, then being bound isn't really a punishment *NM* PhoenixReborn - 18/01/2010 09:52:29 PM 417 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 10:02:09 PM 881 Views
Also ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 10:13:38 PM 866 Views
I considered that ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 10:11:32 PM 966 Views
I doubt we'll ever really know darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 10:26:43 PM 887 Views
Re: I'm not sure Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:22:34 PM 916 Views
interesting darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:46:12 PM 740 Views
Re: interesting Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:18:11 PM 892 Views
see above *NM* darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 08:23:28 PM 442 Views
I think it more like aging them faster... PhoenixReborn - 18/01/2010 08:24:56 PM 940 Views
and given how things in the AoL works this seems far more likely darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 08:32:52 PM 902 Views
Re: I'm not sure HyogaRott - 20/01/2010 12:59:27 PM 896 Views
She's not immortal ... yet darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 04:15:03 PM 795 Views
The Dark Ones Mark possibly could black the oath rod? *NM* Kieran - 20/01/2010 01:28:08 AM 424 Views
No, that can't be it, because when AS become Black Ajah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 02:53:21 PM 823 Views
But Alviarin's mark is different. Perhaps the mark of a FS is too *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 04:21:16 PM 384 Views
Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting. *NM* Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:19:02 PM 403 Views
Re: Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting. Kieran - 22/01/2010 01:52:51 AM 1014 Views
actually it's different darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:32:18 AM 936 Views
actually I think it's the same... Kieran - 23/01/2010 01:49:19 AM 628 Views
Nup. Unlike the FS, her mark will not allow her to order Darkspawn (plus more). *NM* Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 11:50:36 AM 427 Views
Which has nothing to do with my post regarding the Oath rod... *NM* Kieran - 24/01/2010 10:44:59 PM 411 Views
One point... fionwe1987 - 18/01/2010 06:12:26 PM 1027 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:21:22 PM 812 Views
here's another quote that gives us darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:12:09 PM 1054 Views
FYI ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:50:22 PM 977 Views
Re: FYI ... Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:56:02 PM 1033 Views
Therava channeled the flow, in that case ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:11:00 PM 708 Views
Yes Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:55:22 PM 788 Views
Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye Datakim - 18/01/2010 06:10:45 PM 858 Views
Re: Replacing it with a fake Logain - 18/01/2010 06:22:33 PM 836 Views
I highly doubt it ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:23:55 PM 891 Views
Why not ask somebody else to stand in for you? Artsapat - 19/01/2010 07:55:39 PM 917 Views
I like this idea. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 03:11:51 AM 391 Views
I agree... Etzel - 18/01/2010 06:55:33 PM 993 Views
Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod randfandom - 18/01/2010 09:43:34 PM 981 Views
I'm thinking the point of the thread is to discuss how to beat the Oath Rod, not Mesaana's disguise darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 09:59:18 PM 809 Views
Right, and also ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 10:17:11 PM 833 Views
Except that the best way to 'defeat' the Oath rod is - not to take the Oaths at all Lord Haart - 19/01/2010 03:18:43 AM 739 Views
IMHO... Great Lord of Chaos - 19/01/2010 03:41:10 AM 1025 Views
Another interesting possibility Skeeve the Great - 19/01/2010 05:08:42 PM 827 Views
I'd say it was highly unlikely that the Binder/Oath Rod works that way. *NM* Shishka - 19/01/2010 06:06:49 PM 353 Views
We've seen pretty weird stuff happens before Skeeve the Great - 19/01/2010 06:30:12 PM 902 Views
Oh, I agree ... Shishka - 19/01/2010 06:47:52 PM 701 Views
Re: Oh, I agree ... found a few tidbits ... EDIT darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 06:55:22 PM 844 Views
Heh, I had just dug up that quote myself, before I saw your edit ... Shishka - 19/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 863 Views
I agree, it seems as if Moghedien just effectively transmigrated Birgitte darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 10:00:45 PM 937 Views
she could just be posing as a non-channeler. badassashaman - 19/01/2010 05:52:01 PM 811 Views
If RJ/Brandon lied about that... then maybe Demandred is Taim after all. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 03:20:42 AM 359 Views
To speak no word that is not true Tor - 19/01/2010 10:06:30 PM 884 Views
Could there be a true word, though? Camilla - 20/01/2010 03:47:46 PM 1208 Views
I had a similar discussion with someone else, long ago ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 04:05:03 PM 796 Views
Or would just be able to say "true, true. True true true, true true." etc. *NM* Lord Haart - 21/01/2010 06:17:20 PM 402 Views
In going through some old RJ quotes I found this gem... darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 10:22:03 PM 1155 Views
Nice find! Not sure if that is a "way to defeat the Oath Rod" exactly, but it's certainly feasible. Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 03:19:51 AM 996 Views
Wow, that's great. I wonder what else can be created there, like sa'angeals, etc. BlackAdder - 20/01/2010 03:54:01 AM 768 Views
Good find, I had forgotten about that quote ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 02:42:55 PM 874 Views
Yes Etzel - 20/01/2010 03:03:53 PM 864 Views
Agreed - our guts are thinking alike again. *NM* Shishka - 20/01/2010 03:12:30 PM 391 Views
Indeed Etzel - 20/01/2010 03:28:12 PM 756 Views
Oh I agree! I just thought it was funny that RJ made such a quote darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 04:20:09 PM 876 Views
In the AoL... fionwe1987 - 20/01/2010 04:49:24 PM 946 Views
Re: In the AoL... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:17:55 PM 740 Views
I was thinking this too Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:18:19 PM 900 Views
Still seems like two oaths, to me, due to the "and" ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:27:03 PM 771 Views
The "and" means nothing... fionwe1987 - 20/01/2010 08:01:27 PM 715 Views
Re: Good find, I had forgotten about that quote ... Great Lord of Chaos - 21/01/2010 05:24:18 AM 1080 Views
I like it, mainly because it points to Mesaana being bested by Egwene in T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:26:34 PM 751 Views
Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod Mikerad - 20/01/2010 04:11:37 AM 880 Views
Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 07:28:39 AM 819 Views
It can't be that easy ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 02:51:47 PM 827 Views
maybe she warded herself before goin in or just set her frame of mind to beat it *NM* nigelgoboom - 21/01/2010 02:07:17 AM 445 Views
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