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Sidious Send a noteboard - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM

When did Merana comment on Elayne?

Merana says that till Elayne, no one had come to the Tower who matched Cadsuane, much less surpass her.

But the Glossary says:

Thought to have been born around 705 NE in Ghealdan, which would make her the oldest living Aes Sedai, she was also the strongest in
the Power found for a thousand years or more until the advent of Nynaeve, Elayne and Egwene and even they do not far out-step her.

This is even better. Apparently, even Nynaeve isn't that far above Cadsuane. Which of course makes Egwene and Elayne pretty clos to her.


Nice quote. Cadsuane also says that Alivia is 'well above her' in strength, so once again the quotes are oppositional.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 2676 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1048 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 820 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 767 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 799 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 718 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 752 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 718 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 680 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 848 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 756 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 839 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 728 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 809 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 670 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 987 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 861 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 798 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 745 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 844 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 752 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 485 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 455 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 797 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 745 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 798 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 777 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 747 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 657 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 752 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 823 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 746 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 916 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 755 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 741 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 789 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 677 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 862 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 540 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 792 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 744 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 752 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 796 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 757 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 661 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 835 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 802 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 764 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 746 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 799 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 736 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 751 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 734 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 674 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 656 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 811 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 602 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 475 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 828 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 748 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 788 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 999 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 897 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 651 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 780 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1006 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 726 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 721 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 844 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 695 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 653 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 768 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 514 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 776 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 677 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 707 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 537 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 989 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 764 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 757 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 685 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 827 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 717 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 818 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 603 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 581 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 732 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 614 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 718 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 816 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1030 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 413 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 759 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 792 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 938 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 610 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 777 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 714 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 728 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 903 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 737 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 495 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 434 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 452 Views
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