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LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM
It is an explanation but it's based on very tenuous facts. Lanfear was 'known' to hide her strength based on one quote early on by Moiraine, and even Moiraine suggested that it was nothing more than rumour..


Says the guy who falls back on "Bonfire and Candles" ... now that one of her quotes refutes what you think it's "one quote early on by Moiraine"

To be honest I don't put a lot of stock in the theory either... just brought it up as a side note. In fact I don't put a lot of stock in Moiraine quotes from anything prior to TSR ... she was wrong far too often

Can you imagine how long Lanfear would have had to go through life with this weave on herself, hiding her ability? It strains credibility just from a practical perspective. It seems like Mesaana is quite sure of Lanfear's measured strength. I doubt many women have seen Lanfear channel her full potential and based their estimation on that. Even some of the Black Ajah say that they've measured Lanfear's strength, and it was very high.


well actually all they really have to do is tie off an inverted weave and never think about it again. And Mesaana is ever so credible

She thinks she can match Semirhage, and will be delivering an army of AS to the DO too...

Cyndane also directly says that Alivia is stronger than her before the Finns held her, which implies that she has truly lost strength since then.


That doesn't tell us a whole lot, only that Cyndane lost some power (which we know), could have been through the loss of an angreal, which she immediately assumes Alivia is holding.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 2876 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1209 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 993 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 931 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 989 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 913 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 930 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 903 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 856 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1045 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 932 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1030 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 908 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 965 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 828 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1175 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1046 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 993 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 908 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1033 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 938 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 568 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 530 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 967 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 933 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 959 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 940 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 924 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 840 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 915 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 967 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 935 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1102 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 947 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 945 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 957 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 841 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 1014 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 718 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 956 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 936 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 933 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 986 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 931 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 826 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 1006 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 956 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 955 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 940 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 958 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 940 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 953 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 892 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 840 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 816 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 976 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 767 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 544 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 1011 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 932 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 975 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1193 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1052 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 821 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 968 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1207 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 922 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 902 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1029 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 852 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 822 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 959 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 587 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 939 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 864 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 873 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 609 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1204 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 948 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 943 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 857 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1030 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 894 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 1008 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 770 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 751 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 896 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 788 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 893 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 995 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1165 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 491 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 935 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 968 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1106 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 798 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 940 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 887 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 905 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1085 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 936 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 579 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 503 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 526 Views
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