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Re: It's a mix, IMO Shishka Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 05:20:42 PM
Most of all I believe Moridin wanted to gain Rand's trust by revealing this secret.


Doubtful, IMO. Moridin knows that Rand knows that he used to be Ishamael. And therefore (unless he's a complete moron) he knows that Rand will never trust him, regardless of what he says or does.

It seems possible that Mordin even thought that Rand already learned about this final balefire-death, e.g. from Asmo, LTT or Semirhage. After all, Rand also used balefire against Rahvin.


Perhaps, but then revealing the info himself would serve no purpose.

Besides that, Moridin might consider that this revelation won't matter much anyway, because any Forsaken who will die now won't be transmigrated anymore, since TG is simply too close (Osan'gar apparently wasn't transmigrated).


They might still be transmigrated after TG, if the DO wins. I would think most of the Forsaken hold out that hope.

Plus, what about the potential danger to himself? Does Moridin not care, or does he think he's somehow immune to that possibility?

Finally, it might of course destabilize the Pattern, if Rand and other Lightside channelers use balefire more deliberately, which helps the Shadow.


True, but encouraging Rand to go after the Chosen with that BF seems contradictory to the goal of the Shadow winning. Presumably, they are still needed. Could Moridin & the DO really view the BFing of the Chosen as a net gain? BFing one or two Chosen isn't going to affect the Pattern that much - seemingly less than the amount of chaos each Chosen causes in the Pattern with their various schemes, etc.

Seems like a net loss, to me. Maybe not with what Rand did to Graendal, since he wiped out a whole bunch of people, but in general it would seem like a net loss.
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Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? Shishka - 01/02/2010 03:41:30 PM 1780 Views
I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 04:21:39 PM 1164 Views
Re: I think it's #2. Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:29:20 PM 942 Views
Re: I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 05:51:20 PM 1117 Views
I see what you mean. Shishka - 01/02/2010 06:28:24 PM 1024 Views
Nods darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:37:51 PM 927 Views
Hahahahahahaha. That's hilarious. "I think its #2." Classic! callandor1000 - 01/02/2010 10:39:19 PM 1507 Views
Yep, I'm not really 100% on most things in the series unless there is no doubt. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:03:31 PM 830 Views
No, I mean, #2 means "shit". HAHAHAHA!!! *NM* callandor1000 - 04/02/2010 10:25:45 PM 503 Views
Obviously #2 fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 04:42:24 PM 934 Views
Re: Obviously #2 Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:47:31 PM 1068 Views
I have a fairly controversial answer... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 08:16:31 PM 971 Views
Re: I have a fairly controversial answer... Shishka - 01/02/2010 08:48:20 PM 977 Views
I agree that it is difficult... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 09:49:38 PM 831 Views
Re: I agree that it is difficult... darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 10:46:56 PM 921 Views
Moridin probably just wanted the access key to prevent the Cleansing Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:26:11 AM 7328 Views
no reason to take the tool that allowed Rand to Cleanse saidin? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 01:34:59 PM 918 Views
We don't even know if SH knew about the access key in the box Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:09:32 PM 852 Views
So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 02:14:58 PM 881 Views
If Elza had the order to take the access key, she would have taken it Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:29:08 PM 853 Views
As I've said a million times... I'm on the fence with this theory darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 03:52:31 PM 1350 Views
Again: there wasn't a Forsaken near the opened box. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 04:22:32 PM 833 Views
So SH is the idiot? Okay! darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 04:59:36 PM 959 Views
He might not know about the access key in the box or have other priorities. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:20:36 PM 784 Views
Elza certainly knows what it is darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:40:46 PM 849 Views
Re: So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 08:00:20 PM 965 Views
You are actually supporting my point darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:39:32 PM 902 Views
Because Moridin sees it for what it is: a tool. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:56:15 PM 1108 Views
It's a mix, IMO Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:00:07 PM 961 Views
Re: It's a mix, IMO Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:20:42 PM 1027 Views
In the same scene Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:36:45 PM 929 Views
Re: In the same scene Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:16:56 PM 940 Views
Personally... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:53:07 AM 790 Views
#3 IMO, though I kind of hope it was #2. *NM* Lord Haart - 01/02/2010 05:37:32 PM 444 Views
#4 - Maybe Sandokat - 01/02/2010 07:05:33 PM 879 Views
Re: #4 - Maybe Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:23:17 PM 915 Views
i dont think Morodin needs trust super nova - 01/02/2010 11:57:20 PM 970 Views
#4 - Part of his intoxication DomA - 02/02/2010 06:26:35 AM 897 Views
Hmmm ... Shishka - 02/02/2010 02:47:54 PM 929 Views
#3 - Moridin is the WoT Goth BlackAdder - 02/02/2010 04:31:09 PM 864 Views
Re: Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? saidarisnowtainted - 24/02/2010 02:01:01 PM 985 Views
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