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Re: It's a mix, IMO Shishka Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 05:20:42 PM
Most of all I believe Moridin wanted to gain Rand's trust by revealing this secret.


Doubtful, IMO. Moridin knows that Rand knows that he used to be Ishamael. And therefore (unless he's a complete moron) he knows that Rand will never trust him, regardless of what he says or does.

It seems possible that Mordin even thought that Rand already learned about this final balefire-death, e.g. from Asmo, LTT or Semirhage. After all, Rand also used balefire against Rahvin.


Perhaps, but then revealing the info himself would serve no purpose.

Besides that, Moridin might consider that this revelation won't matter much anyway, because any Forsaken who will die now won't be transmigrated anymore, since TG is simply too close (Osan'gar apparently wasn't transmigrated).


They might still be transmigrated after TG, if the DO wins. I would think most of the Forsaken hold out that hope.

Plus, what about the potential danger to himself? Does Moridin not care, or does he think he's somehow immune to that possibility?

Finally, it might of course destabilize the Pattern, if Rand and other Lightside channelers use balefire more deliberately, which helps the Shadow.


True, but encouraging Rand to go after the Chosen with that BF seems contradictory to the goal of the Shadow winning. Presumably, they are still needed. Could Moridin & the DO really view the BFing of the Chosen as a net gain? BFing one or two Chosen isn't going to affect the Pattern that much - seemingly less than the amount of chaos each Chosen causes in the Pattern with their various schemes, etc.

Seems like a net loss, to me. Maybe not with what Rand did to Graendal, since he wiped out a whole bunch of people, but in general it would seem like a net loss.
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Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? Shishka - 01/02/2010 03:41:30 PM 1578 Views
I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 04:21:39 PM 962 Views
Re: I think it's #2. Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:29:20 PM 762 Views
Re: I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 05:51:20 PM 884 Views
I see what you mean. Shishka - 01/02/2010 06:28:24 PM 795 Views
Nods darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:37:51 PM 733 Views
Hahahahahahaha. That's hilarious. "I think its #2." Classic! callandor1000 - 01/02/2010 10:39:19 PM 1319 Views
Yep, I'm not really 100% on most things in the series unless there is no doubt. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:03:31 PM 645 Views
No, I mean, #2 means "shit". HAHAHAHA!!! *NM* callandor1000 - 04/02/2010 10:25:45 PM 402 Views
Obviously #2 fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 04:42:24 PM 735 Views
Re: Obviously #2 Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:47:31 PM 800 Views
I have a fairly controversial answer... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 08:16:31 PM 743 Views
Re: I have a fairly controversial answer... Shishka - 01/02/2010 08:48:20 PM 739 Views
I agree that it is difficult... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 09:49:38 PM 615 Views
Re: I agree that it is difficult... darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 10:46:56 PM 701 Views
Moridin probably just wanted the access key to prevent the Cleansing Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:26:11 AM 7126 Views
no reason to take the tool that allowed Rand to Cleanse saidin? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 01:34:59 PM 706 Views
We don't even know if SH knew about the access key in the box Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:09:32 PM 641 Views
So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 02:14:58 PM 653 Views
If Elza had the order to take the access key, she would have taken it Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:29:08 PM 667 Views
As I've said a million times... I'm on the fence with this theory darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 03:52:31 PM 1115 Views
Again: there wasn't a Forsaken near the opened box. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 04:22:32 PM 611 Views
So SH is the idiot? Okay! darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 04:59:36 PM 729 Views
He might not know about the access key in the box or have other priorities. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:20:36 PM 590 Views
Elza certainly knows what it is darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:40:46 PM 632 Views
Re: So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 08:00:20 PM 750 Views
You are actually supporting my point darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:39:32 PM 691 Views
Because Moridin sees it for what it is: a tool. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:56:15 PM 871 Views
It's a mix, IMO Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:00:07 PM 739 Views
Re: It's a mix, IMO Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:20:42 PM 805 Views
In the same scene Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:36:45 PM 730 Views
Re: In the same scene Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:16:56 PM 706 Views
Personally... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:53:07 AM 611 Views
#3 IMO, though I kind of hope it was #2. *NM* Lord Haart - 01/02/2010 05:37:32 PM 353 Views
#4 - Maybe Sandokat - 01/02/2010 07:05:33 PM 664 Views
Re: #4 - Maybe Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:23:17 PM 712 Views
i dont think Morodin needs trust super nova - 01/02/2010 11:57:20 PM 755 Views
#4 - Part of his intoxication DomA - 02/02/2010 06:26:35 AM 664 Views
Hmmm ... Shishka - 02/02/2010 02:47:54 PM 696 Views
#3 - Moridin is the WoT Goth BlackAdder - 02/02/2010 04:31:09 PM 658 Views
Re: Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? saidarisnowtainted - 24/02/2010 02:01:01 PM 741 Views
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