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Re: In the same scene Shishka Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 07:16:56 PM
Moridin also tries to tempt Rand again by saying that the DO could heal his madness or resurrect Ilyena. Therefore I definitely think that Moridin tries to make Rand a bit more trusting here (even if this fails; though Rand doesn't attack Moridin at least).


Yes, he tried to tempt Rand to convert to the Shadow (yet again), but that's just his modis operandi. I don't think he was trying to get Rand to trust him. I really doubt that any schemes Moridin has up his sleave hinge on Rand trusting him.

Moridin states in this scene that he believes that the DO win end everything, if he wins.


Yeah, so he wouldn't care about the transmigration issue. Presumably the other Forsaken would be unhappy to know that Moridin had revealed that info, since they are under the delusion that there will be life after TG, if the DO wins.

On the other hand, he might even consider that this would harm Rand as well, because of their link.


Yeah, but he's not ready to sacrifice himself for the cause, yet. Otherwise, he wouldn't care if one of the other Forsaken harmed/killed Rand, it seems to me.

But of course, he likely wouldn't really care if Rand balefires the other Forsaken, since they are competitors.


Competitors for what, exactly? As you noted, Moridin thinks the DO's victory will end EVERYTHING, so there is nothing to compete for.

I don't think he views any of the other Chosen as competition, I think he views them as tools, just as the DO does, presumably.

However, that Rand & Co. might lose their constraints to use balefire might be good for the Shadow.


Perhaps, but I'm just not sure "BF use by the Light" outweighs "Chosen deaths", at this point in the game. Whereas, I can see how "Rand TP use" outweighs "Semirhage death", in terms of benefit to the Shadow.
Rise and fall, turn the Wheel,
'cause all life is
is really just a circle.

-BHT&tM
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Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? Shishka - 01/02/2010 03:41:30 PM 1627 Views
I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 04:21:39 PM 1012 Views
Re: I think it's #2. Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:29:20 PM 809 Views
Re: I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 05:51:20 PM 930 Views
I see what you mean. Shishka - 01/02/2010 06:28:24 PM 850 Views
Nods darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:37:51 PM 789 Views
Hahahahahahaha. That's hilarious. "I think its #2." Classic! callandor1000 - 01/02/2010 10:39:19 PM 1368 Views
Yep, I'm not really 100% on most things in the series unless there is no doubt. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:03:31 PM 690 Views
No, I mean, #2 means "shit". HAHAHAHA!!! *NM* callandor1000 - 04/02/2010 10:25:45 PM 427 Views
Obviously #2 fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 04:42:24 PM 783 Views
Re: Obviously #2 Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:47:31 PM 877 Views
I have a fairly controversial answer... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 08:16:31 PM 815 Views
Re: I have a fairly controversial answer... Shishka - 01/02/2010 08:48:20 PM 805 Views
I agree that it is difficult... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 09:49:38 PM 681 Views
Re: I agree that it is difficult... darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 10:46:56 PM 756 Views
Moridin probably just wanted the access key to prevent the Cleansing Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:26:11 AM 7176 Views
no reason to take the tool that allowed Rand to Cleanse saidin? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 01:34:59 PM 756 Views
We don't even know if SH knew about the access key in the box Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:09:32 PM 686 Views
So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 02:14:58 PM 700 Views
If Elza had the order to take the access key, she would have taken it Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:29:08 PM 716 Views
As I've said a million times... I'm on the fence with this theory darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 03:52:31 PM 1172 Views
Again: there wasn't a Forsaken near the opened box. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 04:22:32 PM 664 Views
So SH is the idiot? Okay! darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 04:59:36 PM 794 Views
He might not know about the access key in the box or have other priorities. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:20:36 PM 645 Views
Elza certainly knows what it is darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:40:46 PM 682 Views
Re: So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 08:00:20 PM 804 Views
You are actually supporting my point darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:39:32 PM 740 Views
Because Moridin sees it for what it is: a tool. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:56:15 PM 949 Views
It's a mix, IMO Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:00:07 PM 809 Views
Re: It's a mix, IMO Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:20:42 PM 865 Views
In the same scene Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:36:45 PM 789 Views
Re: In the same scene Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:16:56 PM 759 Views
Personally... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:53:07 AM 657 Views
#3 IMO, though I kind of hope it was #2. *NM* Lord Haart - 01/02/2010 05:37:32 PM 375 Views
#4 - Maybe Sandokat - 01/02/2010 07:05:33 PM 712 Views
Re: #4 - Maybe Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:23:17 PM 757 Views
i dont think Morodin needs trust super nova - 01/02/2010 11:57:20 PM 803 Views
#4 - Part of his intoxication DomA - 02/02/2010 06:26:35 AM 738 Views
Hmmm ... Shishka - 02/02/2010 02:47:54 PM 767 Views
#3 - Moridin is the WoT Goth BlackAdder - 02/02/2010 04:31:09 PM 708 Views
Re: Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? saidarisnowtainted - 24/02/2010 02:01:01 PM 792 Views
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