Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that.
orius Send a noteboard - 13/02/2010 09:33:04 AM
I misunderstood your original post. I agree so far the White Tower has been mostly useless. A White Tower that had not isolated itself from the real world, a White Tower that had not blinded itself with arrogance, or a White Tower that was willing not to be the center of attention would have been a help to Rand.
Maybe that was the point, or at least part of it. The WT is supposed to be a significant authority in the Westlands, but it's fallen a long way from the height of it power prior to the Trolloc Wars. Maybe it's part of one of the overall themes in WoT that humanity in this age is weakening and dwindling, not just nations have been failing since the time of Artur Hawkwing, but we see it in the WT too. The number of sisters has fallen, their ability to wield the OP has lessened, this whole theme is mentioned in the main series a few times, and even more strongly in NS.
It's probably also supposed to be a result of Rand breaking the world. Look how many nations have been ripped apart by civil wars and internal discord simply because Rand is. The same thing happened to the Tower itself, especially when there are several influential Ajahs with sharply opposing world views and simmering animosities that have been brewing for many years.
And don't forget the role of the FS and BA. We know Alviarin (and probably the other leaders of the BA) was under direct orders from the Forsaken to break the WT. It's obviously no coincidence that she helped Elaida instigate the whole mess, and I'd imagine important BA sisters in the Blue like Sheriam and Moira didn't just flee to Salidar in a snit over Elaida, but may very well have been following orders from Alviarin or even Mesaana. A reunited WT is a blow against one of the DO's schemes to sow chaos.
So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
- 07/02/2010 04:41:58 AM
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The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER
- 07/02/2010 06:46:51 AM
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Re: The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER
- 08/02/2010 05:43:52 PM
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I think the breaking of the tower was....
- 07/02/2010 07:55:48 AM
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Yes, but that isn't the point.
- 08/02/2010 04:14:32 AM
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Re: Yes, but that isn't the point.
- 08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM
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YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
- 08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM
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YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
- 08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM
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YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
- 08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM
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YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
- 08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM
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YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
- 10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM
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YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
- 10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM
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Re: the wise ones.
- 13/02/2010 10:21:55 AM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
- 07/02/2010 06:14:31 PM
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Re: The point was that Rand needed the division.
- 07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM
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small disagreement
- 07/02/2010 08:42:07 PM
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Re: small disagreement
- 08/02/2010 04:37:03 AM
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Egwene and Siuan have noted that there are plenty of the new Novices
- 15/02/2010 04:22:35 PM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
- 08/02/2010 04:34:52 AM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
- 08/02/2010 06:56:01 AM
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Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien
- 11/02/2010 11:53:41 PM
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Re: Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien
- 13/02/2010 10:45:06 AM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
- 07/02/2010 10:42:27 PM
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These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that.
- 08/02/2010 04:50:11 AM
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Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that.
- 08/02/2010 05:47:36 AM
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Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that.
- 13/02/2010 09:33:04 AM
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For that matter, what is the point of Andor?
- 08/02/2010 06:08:32 AM
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Re: For that matter, what is the point of Andor?
- 08/02/2010 03:38:54 PM
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But Tar Valon is critical too.
- 08/02/2010 07:41:43 PM
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Really?
- 10/02/2010 05:30:02 AM
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So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower.
- 10/02/2010 10:13:56 PM
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Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower.
- 12/02/2010 12:43:19 AM
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Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower.
- 15/02/2010 02:23:57 PM
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To pad the last few books in order to make Egwene the Amyrlin.
- 17/02/2010 05:25:22 PM
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