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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Lord of the Grave is stronger than he once was my son. His reach is longer. The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now, his whim, the law of my existence. I can but obey him, and grovel for his favor. Ony you can free me. Please, my son. Please help me. Help me. Help me! PLEASE!"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?

Personally I think it is the later. What do others think?
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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1570 Views
I always figured..... Jeordam - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 1225 Views
Re: I always figured..... Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 1054 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1510 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor BlackAdder - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 1006 Views
Well... File Leader - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 967 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 1132 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 1079 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Evil_Monkey - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 929 Views
Nice... but car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 909 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 919 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. DomA - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 991 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* scalius - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 396 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 1012 Views
While you're probably right... Gher - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 966 Views
Re: While you're probably right... DomA - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 992 Views
Not everything got tweaked... Gher - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 914 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... DomA - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 1005 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. Gher - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 858 Views
I just thought that Ishamael manipulated T'A'R to trap Rand in a dream based on Rand's thoughts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/03/2010 06:04:22 PM 919 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 974 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor DomA - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 914 Views
car'a'aman - 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 862 Views
Re: DomA - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 979 Views
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