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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Lord of the Grave is stronger than he once was my son. His reach is longer. The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now, his whim, the law of my existence. I can but obey him, and grovel for his favor. Ony you can free me. Please, my son. Please help me. Help me. Help me! PLEASE!"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?

Personally I think it is the later. What do others think?
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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1541 Views
I always figured..... Jeordam - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 1175 Views
Re: I always figured..... Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 1013 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1472 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor BlackAdder - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 966 Views
Well... File Leader - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 933 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 1092 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 1031 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Evil_Monkey - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 890 Views
Nice... but car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 877 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 880 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. DomA - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 948 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* scalius - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 380 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 982 Views
While you're probably right... Gher - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 929 Views
Re: While you're probably right... DomA - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 953 Views
Not everything got tweaked... Gher - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 891 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... DomA - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 968 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. Gher - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 831 Views
I just thought that Ishamael manipulated T'A'R to trap Rand in a dream based on Rand's thoughts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/03/2010 06:04:22 PM 884 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 943 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor DomA - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 868 Views
car'a'aman - 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 825 Views
Re: DomA - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 942 Views
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