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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Lord of the Grave is stronger than he once was my son. His reach is longer. The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now, his whim, the law of my existence. I can but obey him, and grovel for his favor. Ony you can free me. Please, my son. Please help me. Help me. Help me! PLEASE!"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?

Personally I think it is the later. What do others think?
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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1330 Views
I always figured..... Jeordam - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 948 Views
Re: I always figured..... Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 815 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1211 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor BlackAdder - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 749 Views
Well... File Leader - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 760 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 868 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 797 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Evil_Monkey - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 698 Views
Nice... but car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 679 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 688 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. DomA - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 760 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* scalius - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 301 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 796 Views
While you're probably right... Gher - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 733 Views
Re: While you're probably right... DomA - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 736 Views
Not everything got tweaked... Gher - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 663 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... DomA - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 776 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. Gher - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 644 Views
I just thought that Ishamael manipulated T'A'R to trap Rand in a dream based on Rand's thoughts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/03/2010 06:04:22 PM 695 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 750 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor DomA - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 674 Views
car'a'aman - 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 654 Views
Re: DomA - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 737 Views
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