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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Lord of the Grave is stronger than he once was my son. His reach is longer. The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now, his whim, the law of my existence. I can but obey him, and grovel for his favor. Ony you can free me. Please, my son. Please help me. Help me. Help me! PLEASE!"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?

Personally I think it is the later. What do others think?
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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1345 Views
I always figured..... Jeordam - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 972 Views
Re: I always figured..... Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 833 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1232 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor BlackAdder - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 766 Views
Well... File Leader - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 778 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 885 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 811 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Evil_Monkey - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 711 Views
Nice... but car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 701 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 704 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. DomA - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 777 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* scalius - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 309 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 816 Views
While you're probably right... Gher - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 751 Views
Re: While you're probably right... DomA - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 753 Views
Not everything got tweaked... Gher - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 680 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... DomA - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 791 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. Gher - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 661 Views
I just thought that Ishamael manipulated T'A'R to trap Rand in a dream based on Rand's thoughts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/03/2010 06:04:22 PM 706 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 767 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor DomA - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 690 Views
car'a'aman - 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 671 Views
Re: DomA - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 755 Views
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