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Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM
Essentially, he's saying that the main characters have never had to make any real difficult or morally ambiguous choices.

Rand has never had to overthrow an otherwise good man for not joining him (the nobles are generally pictured as worthless), Egwene didn't have to actually war against the tower, or deal with Elaida, and so on. Everyone (for the most part) manages to come out of their trials squeaky-clean.


Hmm.

The "unpleasantness" after the Aiel War might qualify for this. We still don't know everything that happened, there. Black Ajah, secret killings, and more. There might have been a group of Aes Sedai that were pretty brutal in trying to figure out what the BA was up to.

Perrin allowing the Seancean to collar the Shaido Wise Ones could be a big one, although it's mostly been glossed over.

Rand's balefiring of Graendal's keep? Could be, but it IS one of the Forsaken...

Mat leaving enemy soldiers to die, instead of offering aid? Eh.

Yeah, I see what you mean. None of these are really in the category of what you were saying.
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Did the characters come too easily to power? Cannoli - 16/03/2010 11:37:31 PM 2151 Views
hehe I think I fell asleep during that read :p *NM* Kieran - 17/03/2010 01:12:55 AM 487 Views
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All the way through, up to ripping her self-delusional assessments of her "achievements" in KoD Cannoli - 02/04/2010 09:27:54 PM 972 Views
A shame I missed it, then orius - 04/04/2010 08:55:40 AM 954 Views
Re: A shame I missed it, then xero_space - 10/04/2010 08:17:38 AM 931 Views
Cliffs notes anyone? *NM* Narg - 17/03/2010 05:31:02 AM 1597 Views
TLDR *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 679 Views
Trolloc luRns da Reeading? jiggy - 17/03/2010 08:27:23 AM 1278 Views
Too long, didnt read *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 04:23:34 PM 438 Views
Cmon ppl pls reply to this, Cannoli has spent such a long time writing it.... I couldn't be bothered *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 10:31:38 AM 469 Views
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Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Underwood - 17/03/2010 01:38:02 PM 1048 Views
Thank you *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 536 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. Ryan - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 1044 Views
I did read it and it was good dadof5 - 17/03/2010 02:33:26 PM 938 Views
I agree... *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 483 Views
That depends on certain interpretations... Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:29:15 PM 1183 Views
Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:49:55 PM 1048 Views
Re: Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:15:18 PM 988 Views
I agree Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:35:05 PM 1139 Views
Strong vs. Hard in other words ajfurst - 19/03/2010 05:10:41 AM 983 Views
Loooong *NM* Sidious - 17/03/2010 03:52:25 PM 526 Views
Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 915 Views
I usually read Cannoli's epic-length posts... Myrdhyn - 17/03/2010 04:08:33 PM 1056 Views
Ha! Imagine if I didn't double-space the paragraphs. That is a fairly new practice on my part. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:36:13 PM 485 Views
I'd suggest you had more paragraphs......with a lot of spacing..... *NM* car'a'aman - 19/03/2010 04:42:05 AM 518 Views
Oh I know. I've been lurking here/wotmania for a VERY long time. Myrdhyn - 22/03/2010 01:31:30 PM 977 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. beetnemesis - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 985 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. newyorkersedai - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 1165 Views
Oh and I forgot to add newyorkersedai - 18/03/2010 01:41:28 AM 1035 Views
I would say those cases are both examples of aknowledging their own limitations and priorities Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:02:13 PM 1100 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 1020 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:10:22 PM 1039 Views
I was more focussed on the cost of GETTING power, not the prices of discharging it responsibly Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:27:18 PM 1182 Views
I think this is an excellent analysis redqueen - 18/03/2010 01:56:33 PM 1078 Views
Thanks. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 520 Views
While most of this is true... fionwe1987 - 19/03/2010 06:47:19 AM 956 Views
Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. Cannoli - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM 990 Views
What do you mean by "properly"? fionwe1987 - 20/03/2010 07:57:26 AM 918 Views
She did that because the Black Ajah was her personal boogeyman Cannoli - 20/03/2010 09:58:54 AM 1114 Views
Re: The To'Raken Lord Haart - 06/04/2010 06:00:07 AM 1017 Views
Re: The To'Raken Cannoli - 07/04/2010 11:31:47 PM 1216 Views
Re: The To'Raken orius - 09/04/2010 06:22:38 AM 903 Views
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