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Re: Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... Macharius Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 06:15:18 PM
It's also possible that Rand's new understanding of souls having more chances at life will better equip him to deal with making such large sacrifices... "I'm sorry, but it's necessary so that your soul will be able to live again in later lives".

You say that Rand needs to cause more destruction. I agree and think there needs to be a huge sacrifice.

Lets assume this sacrifice HAS to be payed, there's no way to sidestep it. (a theme strongly implied in the prophesies)

My opinion is this. The earlier 'dark' Rand would have no problems sacrificing as many as he needed to (although it would probably make him go more down the path of darkness and insanity). But the new 'enlightened' Rand may have a hard time. Imagine a situation where the 'good' Rand HAS to sacrifice people or give up the fight. Since we have assumed this should happen, this WILL happen eventually. At this point Rand is going to have a much much harder time deciding. The two possible logical results would be that Rand either sacrifices ad reverts back to some semblance of the 'dark' Rand, or he doesn't do anything and fatally compromises the battle at TG. In this case the hard decisions are still in the future and Rand was brought to this position so that he will be 'weak' at that point.

But I have the dirty feeling that RJ is going to 'cheat' and provide a way out of this sacrifice.....So ya, if RJ does cheat, then it seems like its been way too easy for Rand.
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Did the characters come too easily to power? Cannoli - 16/03/2010 11:37:31 PM 1986 Views
hehe I think I fell asleep during that read :p *NM* Kieran - 17/03/2010 01:12:55 AM 426 Views
Yes, and for Rand at least IMO, playing nice has cost dearly ajfurst - 17/03/2010 04:59:32 AM 1001 Views
Not necessarily Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:17:10 PM 942 Views
Good post. xero_space - 27/03/2010 01:43:24 PM 798 Views
Unfortunately, no. Cannoli - 31/03/2010 10:23:58 AM 913 Views
Re: Unfortunately, no. orius - 02/04/2010 07:54:10 AM 740 Views
All the way through, up to ripping her self-delusional assessments of her "achievements" in KoD Cannoli - 02/04/2010 09:27:54 PM 816 Views
A shame I missed it, then orius - 04/04/2010 08:55:40 AM 810 Views
Re: A shame I missed it, then xero_space - 10/04/2010 08:17:38 AM 786 Views
Cliffs notes anyone? *NM* Narg - 17/03/2010 05:31:02 AM 1528 Views
TLDR *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 615 Views
Trolloc luRns da Reeading? jiggy - 17/03/2010 08:27:23 AM 1040 Views
Too long, didnt read *NM* Nargs - 17/03/2010 04:23:34 PM 374 Views
Cmon ppl pls reply to this, Cannoli has spent such a long time writing it.... I couldn't be bothered *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 10:31:38 AM 395 Views
*NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 10:32:04 AM 403 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Underwood - 17/03/2010 01:38:02 PM 917 Views
Thank you *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 480 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. Ryan - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 863 Views
I did read it and it was good dadof5 - 17/03/2010 02:33:26 PM 801 Views
I agree... *NM* car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 419 Views
That depends on certain interpretations... Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:29:15 PM 1024 Views
Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... car'a'aman - 17/03/2010 02:49:55 PM 904 Views
Re: Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:15:18 PM 854 Views
I agree Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:35:05 PM 973 Views
Strong vs. Hard in other words ajfurst - 19/03/2010 05:10:41 AM 847 Views
Loooong *NM* Sidious - 17/03/2010 03:52:25 PM 452 Views
Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 762 Views
I usually read Cannoli's epic-length posts... Myrdhyn - 17/03/2010 04:08:33 PM 910 Views
Ha! Imagine if I didn't double-space the paragraphs. That is a fairly new practice on my part. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:36:13 PM 429 Views
I'd suggest you had more paragraphs......with a lot of spacing..... *NM* car'a'aman - 19/03/2010 04:42:05 AM 454 Views
Oh I know. I've been lurking here/wotmania for a VERY long time. Myrdhyn - 22/03/2010 01:31:30 PM 842 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. beetnemesis - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 859 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. newyorkersedai - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 981 Views
Oh and I forgot to add newyorkersedai - 18/03/2010 01:41:28 AM 895 Views
I would say those cases are both examples of aknowledging their own limitations and priorities Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:02:13 PM 956 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. Cannoli - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 876 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? Macharius - 17/03/2010 06:10:22 PM 887 Views
I was more focussed on the cost of GETTING power, not the prices of discharging it responsibly Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:27:18 PM 983 Views
I think this is an excellent analysis redqueen - 18/03/2010 01:56:33 PM 930 Views
Thanks. *NM* Cannoli - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 448 Views
While most of this is true... fionwe1987 - 19/03/2010 06:47:19 AM 783 Views
Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. Cannoli - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM 813 Views
What do you mean by "properly"? fionwe1987 - 20/03/2010 07:57:26 AM 773 Views
She did that because the Black Ajah was her personal boogeyman Cannoli - 20/03/2010 09:58:54 AM 959 Views
Re: The To'Raken Lord Haart - 06/04/2010 06:00:07 AM 845 Views
Re: The To'Raken Cannoli - 07/04/2010 11:31:47 PM 1051 Views
Re: The To'Raken orius - 09/04/2010 06:22:38 AM 769 Views
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