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Re: Camilla Send a noteboard - 12/07/2010 07:44:56 PM
The Dursleys' treatment of Harry is simply abuse. They prefigure the Death Eaters' treatment of muggles and squibs (in that they have powers that muggles don't). The powerful who use their power to dominate and abuse those weaker than them are painted as in the wrong from the very first. Not just scary, but fundamentally misguided and not worth aspiring to.

It's a very clever way of introducing that element, I think. The Death Eaters are quite a difficult concept, and grounding their "evil" in something that is unfortunately so common was a good way to make them easier to handle.

I love your analysis of things. It's stuff that I've noticed but can never quite explain in a coherent way.


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Harry Potter Re-read: The Philosopher's Stone - Final section underway! (& next book plans) Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:27:51 AM 3688 Views
Chapters 1-3: Introducing Harry Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:28:49 AM 1919 Views
Characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:02 AM 1109 Views
My thoughts, such as they are. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:09:55 PM 2028 Views
Agree. She gave us enough to make it interesting. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 06:45:46 PM 1948 Views
Re: My thoughts, such as they are. *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:43:49 PM 1948 Views
You hit the nail on the head. Seriana Sedai - 13/07/2010 12:20:19 AM 1873 Views
Re: You hit the nail on the head. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:51:45 AM 1803 Views
Writing style *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1084 Views
A couple of points. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:10:20 PM 1802 Views
It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:18:14 PM 2002 Views
True. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1934 Views
Re: It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Tor - 12/07/2010 09:31:11 PM 2164 Views
Re: It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:51:23 PM 1730 Views
Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:03:26 AM 1972 Views
Re: Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:54:40 AM 1937 Views
Re: Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 01:14:01 PM 2001 Views
Indeed. Camilla - 13/07/2010 01:15:23 PM 1772 Views
Early themes *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:37 AM 1177 Views
Strong vs weak *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:23:45 PM 1755 Views
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Re: Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:44:56 PM 1764 Views
Chapters 4-10: Making Friends at Hogwarts *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:58 AM 1031 Views
Impressions: thoughts about the school, the teachers, the enemies and the friends. *NM* Rebekah - 14/07/2010 08:29:38 AM 1068 Views
I'd forgotten how annoying Hermione was Deadsy - 14/07/2010 01:48:13 PM 1854 Views
Me too. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:30:13 PM 1774 Views
Yep. I like seeing her transformation in this story though. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 04:58:04 PM 1821 Views
Re: Yep. I like seeing her transformation in this story though. Camilla - 14/07/2010 06:13:13 PM 1844 Views
Yes and, I think, this may be another candidate for early themes (from above) StormCrow - 14/07/2010 07:43:14 PM 1947 Views
Re: Impressions: thoughts about the school, the teachers, the enemies and the friends. aria - 14/07/2010 04:22:54 PM 1966 Views
Agree. I loved the instant tension between Harry and Malfoy and with Harry and Snape too. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:03:20 PM 2107 Views
Some thoughts before I run off to the library again Camilla - 14/07/2010 06:11:45 PM 2024 Views
Good points aria - 14/07/2010 08:45:56 PM 1924 Views
It's interesting to look at the beginning of the story from Draco's point of view. Legolas - 26/07/2010 03:08:38 PM 2179 Views
Re: It's interesting to look at the beginning of the story from Draco's point of view. Camilla - 26/07/2010 03:18:02 PM 1774 Views
What about the magic? Rebekah - 14/07/2010 08:58:51 AM 1840 Views
The magic wasnt really developed at this point Dark Knight - 14/07/2010 02:13:41 PM 1759 Views
Re: The magic wasnt really developed at this point Camilla - 14/07/2010 08:53:08 PM 1999 Views
There was one powerful protection Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 01:29:49 AM 1934 Views
I agree aria - 15/07/2010 04:51:05 AM 1924 Views
Re: I agree Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 05:44:41 AM 1798 Views
Re: There was one powerful protection Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:12:40 AM 2080 Views
I think nossy - 14/07/2010 04:34:30 PM 1762 Views
Diagon Alley - Olivander's Foreshadowing StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:11:40 PM 2051 Views
Re: Diagon Alley - Olivander's Foreshadowing aria - 14/07/2010 08:51:06 PM 1759 Views
Agreed. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 08:57:55 PM 1798 Views
I really need a remembrall. Camilla - 14/07/2010 08:57:10 PM 1952 Views
I felt bad for Neville. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 09:03:49 PM 1900 Views
Indeed. Camilla - 14/07/2010 09:05:40 PM 1784 Views
But it doesn't tell you what you've forgotten! nossy - 15/07/2010 02:51:47 AM 2062 Views
I know, right! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:41:01 AM 1765 Views
Exactly. nossy - 15/07/2010 03:22:18 PM 1699 Views
Re: But it doesn't tell you what you've forgotten! Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:15:55 AM 1813 Views
Ah, see nossy - 15/07/2010 03:23:49 PM 1741 Views
Chapters 11-17: Harry the Hero *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:30:29 AM 1046 Views
What'd you think of the ending? *NM* Rebekah - 15/07/2010 05:21:38 PM 1010 Views
Loved it. StormCrow - 15/07/2010 05:56:06 PM 1826 Views
Two separate things: nossy - 15/07/2010 07:14:08 PM 1819 Views
I hear you Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 08:22:05 PM 1847 Views
Re: Two separate things: Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:48:21 PM 1829 Views
I can clarify some stuff for you Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:14:07 PM 1902 Views
One of the most sublime, wonderful moments of any book Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 08:18:29 PM 1679 Views
Yes! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 10:39:11 PM 1853 Views
Lovely Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:00:11 PM 1919 Views
Haha Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:16:16 PM 1991 Views
Re: Haha Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:24:06 PM 1892 Views
But I thought all girls were made of sugar and spice and everything nice? Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:26:53 PM 1751 Views
Oh, we are. Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:35:17 PM 1669 Views
Ah like vodka vs. wine coolers? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:48:26 PM 990 Views
Gin Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:49:33 PM 1781 Views
I was 16. Rebekah - 15/07/2010 10:49:33 PM 1673 Views
So was I Camilla - 15/07/2010 10:54:24 PM 1712 Views
Honestly, dumbledore is a bit of an ass... jh - 15/07/2010 10:48:32 PM 1683 Views
Heresy! Camilla - 15/07/2010 10:55:28 PM 1706 Views
The decades of manipulation of a child doesn't bother you, but the House Cup does? *NM* Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 11:37:54 PM 976 Views
Not really. I am looking at it from a school perspective. jh - 16/07/2010 12:54:46 PM 1600 Views
As I indicated below, I had some issues. Nate - 16/07/2010 03:05:05 AM 1997 Views
Re: As I indicated below, I had some issues. Camilla - 16/07/2010 11:14:56 AM 1862 Views
In fairness, it's Hogwarts itself that is all but impregnable. Legolas - 26/07/2010 03:55:02 PM 1797 Views
A funny thing I noticed Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:00:42 PM 1894 Views
nossy - 15/07/2010 09:18:08 PM 1760 Views
Overall thoughts for the book Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:31:37 AM 1820 Views
Foreshadowing and setting up the future Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1753 Views
Harry's anger management issues? StormCrow - 12/07/2010 07:14:58 PM 1822 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:40:40 PM 1853 Views
Nah, not deliberate. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:14:20 PM 1911 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:55:32 PM 1834 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:02:59 PM 1773 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. Camilla - 13/07/2010 03:04:42 PM 1874 Views
I noticed a lot of this. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:22:54 PM 1948 Views
Re: I noticed a lot of this. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:39:25 PM 1866 Views
Re: I noticed a lot of this. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:45:32 PM 1854 Views
~smug~ Elaine - 13/07/2010 02:09:15 PM 1836 Views
Indeed. Camilla - 13/07/2010 02:10:41 PM 2076 Views
This response implies the experience of being both?? StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:23:29 PM 1823 Views
On Ginny: Kronin al'Sulc - 12/07/2010 10:36:47 PM 1951 Views
This was my interpretation too and why I didn't pay much attention to it at the time. *NM* StormCrow - 13/07/2010 02:53:08 PM 941 Views
I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:45:28 AM 2068 Views
Re: I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:58:10 AM 1825 Views
So much (chapters 1-3) *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:35:57 PM 2075 Views
Hm. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:38:05 PM 1899 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:39:08 PM 1911 Views
Re: Hm. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:39:53 PM 1718 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:44:16 PM 1631 Views
Re: Hm. Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:41:12 AM 1730 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:55:09 AM 1761 Views
I missed the school roof thing this time around too! Good catch there. *NM* StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1017 Views
The thing that tipped me off Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:53:01 PM 1824 Views
Imagine how easy his test would have been if he remembered he'd done it as a child! *NM* StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:20:27 PM 1012 Views
You have to wonder why Hagrid and Dumbledore didn't suspect the truth about Sirius. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:04:05 PM 1759 Views
I re-read a couple weeks ago, and I was highly amused by all the little things she worked in nossy - 14/07/2010 04:09:19 AM 1894 Views
Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Camilla - 14/07/2010 09:18:35 PM 2019 Views
Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Deadsy - 14/07/2010 10:30:23 PM 1861 Views
Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Camilla - 14/07/2010 10:55:01 PM 1791 Views
Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Deadsy - 14/07/2010 11:05:59 PM 1828 Views
I can answer your consistency question! Cockatiel of Doom - 15/07/2010 02:35:42 AM 1960 Views
You are a clever cookie. Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:14:25 AM 1805 Views
Yes nossy - 15/07/2010 03:30:36 PM 1651 Views
Ooh, yes. Cockatiel of Doom - 16/07/2010 12:19:13 AM 1660 Views
More stuff (chapters 12-17) Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:55:34 PM 1690 Views
Re: More stuff (chapters 12-17) Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1793 Views
Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 Cockatiel of Doom - 17/07/2010 04:23:15 PM 1902 Views
Re: Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 Camilla - 17/07/2010 04:28:04 PM 1805 Views
Re: Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 aria - 17/07/2010 07:12:39 PM 2057 Views
I like it. Thank you. Cockatiel of Doom - 20/07/2010 12:53:37 AM 1990 Views
What made this book (and the rest of the series) such a success? Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:33:00 AM 1906 Views
I have no idea *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:47:58 PM 1994 Views
I agree... StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:19:59 PM 1988 Views
I think it was mostly because it was a simple narrative with an identifiable protagnonist. Chas - 13/07/2010 11:59:06 PM 1893 Views
It has tons of things in it that every kid dreams of doing Deadsy - 14/07/2010 01:56:05 PM 1929 Views
Kid? Camilla - 14/07/2010 02:01:30 PM 1930 Views
so do I. I was just trying to act mature *NM* Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:08:01 PM 1186 Views
Not even just the super stuff Deadsy mentions. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:38:46 PM 2042 Views
It's a simple, well-done little book. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:46:48 PM 1913 Views
you don't read instructions, do you? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:49:24 PM 1959 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:50:23 PM 1896 Views
Re: Heh. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:51:40 PM 1904 Views
Awwww! Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:52:19 PM 1846 Views
Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:52:52 PM 1926 Views
Wha? Nate - 12/07/2010 07:50:44 PM 1954 Views
Re: Wha? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:52:21 PM 1924 Views
Pff. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:54:54 PM 1926 Views
*NM* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:56:03 PM 1192 Views
When did you pick up this book? Dark Knight - 12/07/2010 11:30:46 PM 1853 Views
I was 10. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:13:44 AM 1996 Views
Ah book orders...man you just brought back nostalgic memories. I miss being a kid Dark Knight - 13/07/2010 04:42:12 AM 2044 Views
I was 16. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 08:24:02 AM 1919 Views
1999 Camilla - 13/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 1914 Views
What do you mean by adult version? aria - 13/07/2010 02:15:40 PM 2047 Views
Re: What do you mean by adult version? Camilla - 13/07/2010 02:17:40 PM 1917 Views
They started publishing copies with 'adult' covers so people wouldn't be caught out reading Chas - 13/07/2010 11:53:46 PM 1959 Views
Just before the first movie came out aria - 13/07/2010 02:17:42 PM 2072 Views
When Prisoner of Azkaban was a hardback. Elaine - 13/07/2010 02:23:57 PM 1932 Views
Got a boxed set for Christmas when Order of the Phoenix came out in hardback. StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:06:42 PM 1974 Views
Just after Goblet of Fire was published. Chas - 13/07/2010 11:50:38 PM 2001 Views
Just before Goblet of Fire came out. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:04:21 AM 1956 Views
The first five were out, waited for HBP. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:20:39 AM 2064 Views
You're making me want to talk about toadface Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:06:25 PM 1959 Views
Sorry! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:36:11 AM 2028 Views
Very early. Beginning of 1999, so it had just come out in the States. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/07/2010 08:54:06 AM 1209 Views
I held out quite awhile because I don't like "fads" Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:04:37 PM 1895 Views
Lol! aria - 14/07/2010 08:54:47 PM 1991 Views
I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:39:16 AM 1996 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Deadsy - 15/07/2010 10:01:04 AM 2157 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 05:44:28 PM 2072 Views
I would have, if I had known there was hype. I know I would have. nossy - 15/07/2010 03:28:50 PM 2069 Views
Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 05:47:01 PM 2070 Views
I think I was first! Monkey - 23/07/2010 07:05:08 PM 1996 Views
Aged 13 or 14 - a while before the first movie (which was Christmas 2001). *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:13:55 PM 1210 Views
Jesus Christ. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:04:46 PM 2149 Views
^That was me. *NM* Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 1184 Views
I was going to ask if it was. *NM* Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:04:59 PM 1166 Views
Aw. I was just feeling flattered as I didn't think Tor had read that many of my posts. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:15:52 AM 1179 Views
Besides, you've met me, you should know how old I am. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:16:23 AM 1223 Views
I am very bad at guessing age when I meet people in person Camilla - 27/07/2010 09:05:35 AM 2543 Views
Suggestions for the Re-read Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:33:25 AM 1949 Views
I like it so far Camilla - 13/07/2010 10:16:49 AM 1929 Views
I can try that for the next book. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 11:21:01 PM 1928 Views
This is my first official time participating and its been fun so far! StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:16:48 PM 1901 Views
Unfortunately, no. (Silly me, pretending someone's still going to read all my posts... ) *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:20:35 PM 1186 Views
Can we get chapter discussions everyday? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 06:40:30 PM 1142 Views
Inconsistencies Re: the Potter's death... fionwe1987 - 15/07/2010 05:16:45 AM 2292 Views
Because they were tricked? They considered Peter and Sirius to be brothers. Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 07:05:27 AM 1931 Views
That's nonsense.. fionwe1987 - 16/07/2010 01:08:40 AM 1872 Views
Take it up with Rowling, since you don't believe me. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/07/2010 08:19:58 AM 1085 Views
What's there to believe? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:03:13 AM 1948 Views
Peter + Sirius = family. I don't know how to explain it more simply. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/07/2010 08:58:20 AM 1194 Views
Re: That's nonsense.. eucatastrophe - 16/07/2010 09:37:59 AM 2065 Views
Also Camilla - 16/07/2010 11:17:51 AM 2286 Views
You are correct! There is no inconsistency eucatastrophe - 17/07/2010 04:17:35 AM 1989 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:57:58 AM 1855 Views
But Camilla explained it! eucatastrophe - 18/07/2010 09:27:55 AM 2181 Views
Correction Camilla - 18/07/2010 10:58:59 AM 1989 Views
I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:42:18 PM 1879 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 05:51:36 PM 1889 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:17:04 PM 2189 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 06:28:27 PM 1888 Views
That bothers me too. aria - 18/07/2010 07:17:14 PM 1962 Views
Re: That bothers me too. Camilla - 18/07/2010 07:20:44 PM 1829 Views
Yet... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:47:56 PM 1900 Views
Re: Yet... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:02:31 PM 1931 Views
To quote Dumbledore... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 05:57:23 AM 1825 Views
Again... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:35:10 PM 2133 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:00:55 PM 1918 Views
Re: Again... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 06:33:13 AM 2117 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 20/07/2010 04:45:16 PM 1929 Views
Yet another load of bosh. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 01:00:14 AM 1923 Views
Then let's leave it. Camilla - 21/07/2010 06:48:45 AM 2044 Views
Re: Then let's leave it. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 04:19:35 PM 1931 Views
My two cents Seriana Sedai - 19/07/2010 06:11:30 AM 2004 Views
It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... DomA - 14/09/2010 12:11:20 AM 2401 Views
Re: It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:20:46 AM 1830 Views
You have to wonder if that's actually true. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:23:31 PM 1900 Views
Re: You have to wonder if that's actually true. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:06:43 PM 2120 Views
I don't know that I'd call it "see through Pettigrew"... Legolas - 26/07/2010 06:22:19 PM 1881 Views
^That was me, too. Oh, dear. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:56:43 PM 2107 Views
Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house aria - 18/07/2010 07:14:21 PM 1892 Views
Re: Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house Tor - 26/07/2010 05:07:48 PM 2334 Views
^ And this, too, was me. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:58:07 PM 1924 Views
Re: ^ And this, too, was me. Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:05:41 PM 1847 Views
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