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I can clarify some stuff for you Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 15/07/2010 09:14:07 PM
I love reading as the kids fight through all the challenges. I like that they thought they needed to do it and did it,

BUT

If they hadn't nosed around and been down there, it is very unlikely Quirrell would have been able to get the stone anyway. That has always bothered me (though yes, I can admit to the fact that they discovered a Big Baddie, and that's good for everyone). Also, what was their plan for not dying? Taking on a super-villain and not knowing Harry was protected by his mother... I dunno. I always feel like I shouldn't pick it apart, but I am bothered.:P


Yes, I have always had a problem with that particular bit as well. Do we ever get a satisfactory explanation for it? I have a nagging feeling Dumbledore mentions it at some point, but that may be wishful thinking.

Edit: I suppose it might be because Dumbledore knows Harry will have to kill Voldemort some day (which probably means nobody else can kill Harry? I was never clear on that point), and the only way he can arrive at that point sooner or later is to take risks and learn by doing from an early age. And if he were to happen to kill Voldemort as 11, then that would be done with at least?


Voldemort had yet to fulfill the entire prophecy when he first was destroyed. So technically anybody could kill Harry. However, when Voldemort took Harry's blood for his resurrection, he anchored Harry to life because mother's sacrifice was still alive. Think of Voldemort as a horcrux for Harry. This explains why either had to die at the hand of the other like it said in the prophecy. This also explains the brief gleam of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes when Harry first tells him of Voldemort taking his blood.
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