Active Users:1053 Time:13/07/2026 12:10:57 PM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla Send a noteboard - 18/07/2010 05:51:36 PM
Disregard my initial explanation, there is no inconsistency!

In the Potters' case, they (the people, not their residence at Godric's Hollow) were the subjects of the charm. That means, no one in the world except for Pettigrew (and then Voldemort) could physically see them.

That is not true at all.

Firstly, look at what Flitwick says. Voldy could search their village all he wants, but he wouldn't find them. It the charm only concealed the two of them, then their house would be easily visible to him. How easy for the Death Eaters to simply blow it up when they were inside. The Fidelius Charm would then only be like a permanent invisibility cloak.

Second, look at Lily's letter to Sirius (which is found in DH). She says James was getting pissed off cooped in the house, and without the invisibility cloak, couldn't go out on excursions. If James himself was the secret, he could have gone and stood in front of Voldy, and no one would know! Plus, they have Bathilda Bagshot visiting them, Sirius and Petunia sending them gifts, etc. If they were now secrets, people would not be able to locate them at all!


All that holds for them being Secret as well. Bathilda Baghot could not visit them if their house was Secret, even if they were not. And Nobody could send them gifts if their house was Secret, as owls (or Postmen, for that matter) would not find it. I don't have the book handy. Are you sure all this happens after they have been subjected to the Secrecy Charm, rather than them merely being in (normal) hiding at this point?

Lastly, there's this from DH:

And along a new and darker street he moved, and now his destination was in sight at last, the Fidelius Charm broken, though they did not know it yet. . . .


That is fine either way.

This is Voldemort about to kill the Potters. Clearly, the Breaking of the Charm makes their house visible, not just them.


That is not a given from your quote.

In the case of Shell Cottage, and 12 Grimmauld Place, it was the location of the building that was the secret, not the inhabitants.

As I said, that's not true at all.


Fair enough and I see what you're getting at, but how would they survive? Stay cooped up in their house all the time? Sure, if DD was in on the secret, he could do groceries for them, but what if Voldemort captured and distilled the secret of the Potters' whereabouts from him?

You can't do that. Only the Secret Keeper can reveal the secret. Any others in on it can be tortured all they want, but it wouldn't help.


This is correct.

Plus, they were copped up anyway, as Lily's letter reveals.


Yes. But when was the letter written?
And either way, they would not be able to interact with the world.

And before you quote Gamp's Law, remember: the Death Eaters knew the general location of #12 Grimmauld Place but they couldn't simply fire curses at it and get it demolished!


Because the location was the secret. To fire at something, it has to be there in your awareness.

If it was the Potter's that were hidden and not their house, the Death Eaters could indeed have blasted it.


But would they have known what to blast?
*MySmiley*
structured procrastinator
Reply to message
Harry Potter Re-read: The Philosopher's Stone - Final section underway! (& next book plans) Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:27:51 AM 3826 Views
Chapters 1-3: Introducing Harry Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:28:49 AM 2058 Views
Characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:02 AM 1187 Views
My thoughts, such as they are. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:09:55 PM 2160 Views
Agree. She gave us enough to make it interesting. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 06:45:46 PM 2095 Views
Re: My thoughts, such as they are. *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:43:49 PM 2115 Views
You hit the nail on the head. Seriana Sedai - 13/07/2010 12:20:19 AM 2000 Views
Re: You hit the nail on the head. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:51:45 AM 1954 Views
Writing style *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1162 Views
A couple of points. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:10:20 PM 1934 Views
It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:18:14 PM 2145 Views
True. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 2086 Views
Re: It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Tor - 12/07/2010 09:31:11 PM 2294 Views
Re: It is very clear it is a children's book at this time Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:51:23 PM 1880 Views
Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:03:26 AM 2142 Views
Re: Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:54:40 AM 2085 Views
Re: Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 01:14:01 PM 2143 Views
Indeed. Camilla - 13/07/2010 01:15:23 PM 1932 Views
Early themes *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:37 AM 1253 Views
Strong vs weak *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:23:45 PM 1919 Views
Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:43:27 PM 1956 Views
Re: Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:44:56 PM 1916 Views
Chapters 4-10: Making Friends at Hogwarts *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:58 AM 1102 Views
Impressions: thoughts about the school, the teachers, the enemies and the friends. *NM* Rebekah - 14/07/2010 08:29:38 AM 1138 Views
I'd forgotten how annoying Hermione was Deadsy - 14/07/2010 01:48:13 PM 1995 Views
Me too. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:30:13 PM 1913 Views
Yep. I like seeing her transformation in this story though. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 04:58:04 PM 1946 Views
Re: Yep. I like seeing her transformation in this story though. Camilla - 14/07/2010 06:13:13 PM 1983 Views
Yes and, I think, this may be another candidate for early themes (from above) StormCrow - 14/07/2010 07:43:14 PM 2098 Views
Re: Impressions: thoughts about the school, the teachers, the enemies and the friends. aria - 14/07/2010 04:22:54 PM 2114 Views
Agree. I loved the instant tension between Harry and Malfoy and with Harry and Snape too. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:03:20 PM 2261 Views
Some thoughts before I run off to the library again Camilla - 14/07/2010 06:11:45 PM 2183 Views
Good points aria - 14/07/2010 08:45:56 PM 2078 Views
It's interesting to look at the beginning of the story from Draco's point of view. Legolas - 26/07/2010 03:08:38 PM 2318 Views
Re: It's interesting to look at the beginning of the story from Draco's point of view. Camilla - 26/07/2010 03:18:02 PM 1942 Views
What about the magic? Rebekah - 14/07/2010 08:58:51 AM 1956 Views
The magic wasnt really developed at this point Dark Knight - 14/07/2010 02:13:41 PM 1890 Views
Re: The magic wasnt really developed at this point Camilla - 14/07/2010 08:53:08 PM 2130 Views
There was one powerful protection Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 01:29:49 AM 2075 Views
I agree aria - 15/07/2010 04:51:05 AM 2085 Views
Re: I agree Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 05:44:41 AM 1937 Views
Re: There was one powerful protection Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:12:40 AM 2241 Views
I think nossy - 14/07/2010 04:34:30 PM 1890 Views
Diagon Alley - Olivander's Foreshadowing StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:11:40 PM 2186 Views
Re: Diagon Alley - Olivander's Foreshadowing aria - 14/07/2010 08:51:06 PM 1890 Views
Agreed. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 08:57:55 PM 1932 Views
I really need a remembrall. Camilla - 14/07/2010 08:57:10 PM 2089 Views
I felt bad for Neville. StormCrow - 14/07/2010 09:03:49 PM 2033 Views
Indeed. Camilla - 14/07/2010 09:05:40 PM 1908 Views
But it doesn't tell you what you've forgotten! nossy - 15/07/2010 02:51:47 AM 2183 Views
I know, right! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:41:01 AM 1907 Views
Exactly. nossy - 15/07/2010 03:22:18 PM 1853 Views
Re: But it doesn't tell you what you've forgotten! Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:15:55 AM 1962 Views
Ah, see nossy - 15/07/2010 03:23:49 PM 1873 Views
Chapters 11-17: Harry the Hero *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:30:29 AM 1125 Views
What'd you think of the ending? *NM* Rebekah - 15/07/2010 05:21:38 PM 1087 Views
Loved it. StormCrow - 15/07/2010 05:56:06 PM 1954 Views
Two separate things: nossy - 15/07/2010 07:14:08 PM 1948 Views
I hear you Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 08:22:05 PM 1988 Views
Re: Two separate things: Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:48:21 PM 1956 Views
I can clarify some stuff for you Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:14:07 PM 2053 Views
One of the most sublime, wonderful moments of any book Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 08:18:29 PM 1826 Views
Yes! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 10:39:11 PM 1980 Views
Lovely Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:00:11 PM 2066 Views
Haha Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:16:16 PM 2136 Views
Re: Haha Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:24:06 PM 2034 Views
But I thought all girls were made of sugar and spice and everything nice? Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:26:53 PM 1893 Views
Oh, we are. Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:35:17 PM 1814 Views
Ah like vodka vs. wine coolers? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:48:26 PM 1075 Views
Gin Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:49:33 PM 1932 Views
I was 16. Rebekah - 15/07/2010 10:49:33 PM 1809 Views
So was I Camilla - 15/07/2010 10:54:24 PM 1848 Views
Honestly, dumbledore is a bit of an ass... jh - 15/07/2010 10:48:32 PM 1827 Views
Heresy! Camilla - 15/07/2010 10:55:28 PM 1841 Views
The decades of manipulation of a child doesn't bother you, but the House Cup does? *NM* Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 11:37:54 PM 1045 Views
Not really. I am looking at it from a school perspective. jh - 16/07/2010 12:54:46 PM 1748 Views
As I indicated below, I had some issues. Nate - 16/07/2010 03:05:05 AM 2146 Views
Re: As I indicated below, I had some issues. Camilla - 16/07/2010 11:14:56 AM 2007 Views
In fairness, it's Hogwarts itself that is all but impregnable. Legolas - 26/07/2010 03:55:02 PM 1944 Views
A funny thing I noticed Camilla - 15/07/2010 09:00:42 PM 2045 Views
nossy - 15/07/2010 09:18:08 PM 1886 Views
Overall thoughts for the book Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:31:37 AM 1947 Views
Foreshadowing and setting up the future Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1878 Views
Harry's anger management issues? StormCrow - 12/07/2010 07:14:58 PM 1960 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:40:40 PM 1980 Views
Nah, not deliberate. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:14:20 PM 2044 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:55:32 PM 1976 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:02:59 PM 1911 Views
Re: Nah, not deliberate. Camilla - 13/07/2010 03:04:42 PM 2017 Views
I noticed a lot of this. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:22:54 PM 2085 Views
Re: I noticed a lot of this. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:39:25 PM 2008 Views
Re: I noticed a lot of this. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:45:32 PM 1993 Views
~smug~ Elaine - 13/07/2010 02:09:15 PM 1961 Views
Indeed. Camilla - 13/07/2010 02:10:41 PM 2221 Views
This response implies the experience of being both?? StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:23:29 PM 1962 Views
On Ginny: Kronin al'Sulc - 12/07/2010 10:36:47 PM 2091 Views
This was my interpretation too and why I didn't pay much attention to it at the time. *NM* StormCrow - 13/07/2010 02:53:08 PM 1008 Views
I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:45:28 AM 2223 Views
Re: I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:58:10 AM 1963 Views
So much (chapters 1-3) *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:35:57 PM 2213 Views
Hm. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:38:05 PM 2031 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:39:08 PM 2040 Views
Re: Hm. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:39:53 PM 1848 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:44:16 PM 1765 Views
Re: Hm. Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:41:12 AM 1861 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:55:09 AM 1923 Views
I missed the school roof thing this time around too! Good catch there. *NM* StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1109 Views
The thing that tipped me off Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:53:01 PM 1954 Views
Imagine how easy his test would have been if he remembered he'd done it as a child! *NM* StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:20:27 PM 1094 Views
You have to wonder why Hagrid and Dumbledore didn't suspect the truth about Sirius. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:04:05 PM 1902 Views
I re-read a couple weeks ago, and I was highly amused by all the little things she worked in nossy - 14/07/2010 04:09:19 AM 2040 Views
Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Camilla - 14/07/2010 09:18:35 PM 2157 Views
Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Deadsy - 14/07/2010 10:30:23 PM 1996 Views
Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Camilla - 14/07/2010 10:55:01 PM 1941 Views
Re: Some stuff (chapters 4-11) Deadsy - 14/07/2010 11:05:59 PM 1960 Views
I can answer your consistency question! Cockatiel of Doom - 15/07/2010 02:35:42 AM 2113 Views
You are a clever cookie. Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:14:25 AM 1953 Views
Yes nossy - 15/07/2010 03:30:36 PM 1786 Views
Ooh, yes. Cockatiel of Doom - 16/07/2010 12:19:13 AM 1807 Views
More stuff (chapters 12-17) Camilla - 15/07/2010 08:55:34 PM 1826 Views
Re: More stuff (chapters 12-17) Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1957 Views
Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 Cockatiel of Doom - 17/07/2010 04:23:15 PM 2037 Views
Re: Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 Camilla - 17/07/2010 04:28:04 PM 1936 Views
Re: Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 aria - 17/07/2010 07:12:39 PM 2192 Views
I like it. Thank you. Cockatiel of Doom - 20/07/2010 12:53:37 AM 2152 Views
What made this book (and the rest of the series) such a success? Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:33:00 AM 2065 Views
I have no idea *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:47:58 PM 2142 Views
I agree... StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:19:59 PM 2128 Views
I think it was mostly because it was a simple narrative with an identifiable protagnonist. Chas - 13/07/2010 11:59:06 PM 2021 Views
It has tons of things in it that every kid dreams of doing Deadsy - 14/07/2010 01:56:05 PM 2056 Views
Kid? Camilla - 14/07/2010 02:01:30 PM 2051 Views
so do I. I was just trying to act mature *NM* Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:08:01 PM 1258 Views
Not even just the super stuff Deadsy mentions. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:38:46 PM 2180 Views
It's a simple, well-done little book. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:46:48 PM 2099 Views
you don't read instructions, do you? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:49:24 PM 2102 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:50:23 PM 2031 Views
Re: Heh. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:51:40 PM 2027 Views
Awwww! Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:52:19 PM 1989 Views
Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:52:52 PM 2075 Views
Wha? Nate - 12/07/2010 07:50:44 PM 2105 Views
Re: Wha? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:52:21 PM 2058 Views
Pff. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:54:54 PM 2048 Views
*NM* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:56:03 PM 1263 Views
When did you pick up this book? Dark Knight - 12/07/2010 11:30:46 PM 1981 Views
I was 10. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:13:44 AM 2127 Views
Ah book orders...man you just brought back nostalgic memories. I miss being a kid Dark Knight - 13/07/2010 04:42:12 AM 2180 Views
I was 16. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 08:24:02 AM 2054 Views
1999 Camilla - 13/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 2042 Views
What do you mean by adult version? aria - 13/07/2010 02:15:40 PM 2167 Views
Re: What do you mean by adult version? Camilla - 13/07/2010 02:17:40 PM 2045 Views
They started publishing copies with 'adult' covers so people wouldn't be caught out reading Chas - 13/07/2010 11:53:46 PM 2093 Views
Just before the first movie came out aria - 13/07/2010 02:17:42 PM 2210 Views
When Prisoner of Azkaban was a hardback. Elaine - 13/07/2010 02:23:57 PM 2075 Views
Got a boxed set for Christmas when Order of the Phoenix came out in hardback. StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:06:42 PM 2106 Views
Just after Goblet of Fire was published. Chas - 13/07/2010 11:50:38 PM 2136 Views
Just before Goblet of Fire came out. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:04:21 AM 2073 Views
The first five were out, waited for HBP. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:20:39 AM 2204 Views
You're making me want to talk about toadface Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:06:25 PM 2095 Views
Sorry! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:36:11 AM 2166 Views
Very early. Beginning of 1999, so it had just come out in the States. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/07/2010 08:54:06 AM 1295 Views
I held out quite awhile because I don't like "fads" Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:04:37 PM 2033 Views
Lol! aria - 14/07/2010 08:54:47 PM 2127 Views
I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:39:16 AM 2149 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Deadsy - 15/07/2010 10:01:04 AM 2305 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 05:44:28 PM 2219 Views
I would have, if I had known there was hype. I know I would have. nossy - 15/07/2010 03:28:50 PM 2210 Views
Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 05:47:01 PM 2206 Views
I think I was first! Monkey - 23/07/2010 07:05:08 PM 2150 Views
Aged 13 or 14 - a while before the first movie (which was Christmas 2001). *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:13:55 PM 1282 Views
Jesus Christ. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:04:46 PM 2269 Views
^That was me. *NM* Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 1292 Views
I was going to ask if it was. *NM* Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:04:59 PM 1237 Views
Aw. I was just feeling flattered as I didn't think Tor had read that many of my posts. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:15:52 AM 1251 Views
Besides, you've met me, you should know how old I am. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:16:23 AM 1300 Views
I am very bad at guessing age when I meet people in person Camilla - 27/07/2010 09:05:35 AM 2674 Views
Suggestions for the Re-read Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:33:25 AM 2099 Views
I like it so far Camilla - 13/07/2010 10:16:49 AM 2069 Views
I can try that for the next book. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 11:21:01 PM 2047 Views
This is my first official time participating and its been fun so far! StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:16:48 PM 2026 Views
Unfortunately, no. (Silly me, pretending someone's still going to read all my posts... ) *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:20:35 PM 1265 Views
Can we get chapter discussions everyday? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 06:40:30 PM 1217 Views
Inconsistencies Re: the Potter's death... fionwe1987 - 15/07/2010 05:16:45 AM 2426 Views
Because they were tricked? They considered Peter and Sirius to be brothers. Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 07:05:27 AM 2059 Views
That's nonsense.. fionwe1987 - 16/07/2010 01:08:40 AM 2007 Views
Take it up with Rowling, since you don't believe me. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/07/2010 08:19:58 AM 1158 Views
What's there to believe? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:03:13 AM 2095 Views
Peter + Sirius = family. I don't know how to explain it more simply. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/07/2010 08:58:20 AM 1268 Views
Re: That's nonsense.. eucatastrophe - 16/07/2010 09:37:59 AM 2193 Views
Also Camilla - 16/07/2010 11:17:51 AM 2434 Views
You are correct! There is no inconsistency eucatastrophe - 17/07/2010 04:17:35 AM 2136 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:57:58 AM 1982 Views
But Camilla explained it! eucatastrophe - 18/07/2010 09:27:55 AM 2309 Views
Correction Camilla - 18/07/2010 10:58:59 AM 2122 Views
I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:42:18 PM 2008 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 05:51:36 PM 2032 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:17:04 PM 2322 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 06:28:27 PM 2027 Views
That bothers me too. aria - 18/07/2010 07:17:14 PM 2111 Views
Re: That bothers me too. Camilla - 18/07/2010 07:20:44 PM 1980 Views
Yet... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:47:56 PM 2041 Views
Re: Yet... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:02:31 PM 2058 Views
To quote Dumbledore... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 05:57:23 AM 1954 Views
Again... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:35:10 PM 2273 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:00:55 PM 2068 Views
Re: Again... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 06:33:13 AM 2258 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 20/07/2010 04:45:16 PM 2086 Views
Yet another load of bosh. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 01:00:14 AM 2062 Views
Then let's leave it. Camilla - 21/07/2010 06:48:45 AM 2196 Views
Re: Then let's leave it. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 04:19:35 PM 2061 Views
My two cents Seriana Sedai - 19/07/2010 06:11:30 AM 2148 Views
It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... DomA - 14/09/2010 12:11:20 AM 2539 Views
Re: It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:20:46 AM 1952 Views
You have to wonder if that's actually true. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:23:31 PM 2053 Views
Re: You have to wonder if that's actually true. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:06:43 PM 2251 Views
I don't know that I'd call it "see through Pettigrew"... Legolas - 26/07/2010 06:22:19 PM 2014 Views
^That was me, too. Oh, dear. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:56:43 PM 2261 Views
Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house aria - 18/07/2010 07:14:21 PM 2057 Views
Re: Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house Tor - 26/07/2010 05:07:48 PM 2465 Views
^ And this, too, was me. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:58:07 PM 2069 Views
Re: ^ And this, too, was me. Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:05:41 PM 1973 Views
Camilla - 26/07/2010 10:07:36 PM 1875 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes