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Re: You have to wonder if that's actually true. Tor Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 05:06:43 PM
I have no doubt that Sirius would have died for James, and most likely for Lupin as well. But for Pettigrew? Would he?


Yes. It has always surprised me that the Marauders could not see through Pettigrew. Granted, my image of the dynamics of the group is quite heavily influenced by the Shoebox Project, but I think I got the same impression from the books as well. I am sure someone describes Pettigrew as someone who was always tagging along, rather than a fully fledged friend.
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Harry Potter Re-read: The Philosopher's Stone - Final section underway! (& next book plans) Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:27:51 AM 3805 Views
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My thoughts, such as they are. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:09:55 PM 2131 Views
Agree. She gave us enough to make it interesting. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 06:45:46 PM 2067 Views
Re: My thoughts, such as they are. *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:43:49 PM 2091 Views
You hit the nail on the head. Seriana Sedai - 13/07/2010 12:20:19 AM 1978 Views
Re: You hit the nail on the head. Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:51:45 AM 1925 Views
Writing style *NM* Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1147 Views
A couple of points. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 04:10:20 PM 1911 Views
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True. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 2060 Views
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Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:03:26 AM 2112 Views
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Re: Vernon's slow descent into madness is great. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 01:14:01 PM 2113 Views
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Yes and, I think, this may be another candidate for early themes (from above) StormCrow - 14/07/2010 07:43:14 PM 2066 Views
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I know, right! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:41:01 AM 1882 Views
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Ah like vodka vs. wine coolers? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 09:48:26 PM 1050 Views
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The decades of manipulation of a child doesn't bother you, but the House Cup does? *NM* Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 11:37:54 PM 1031 Views
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In fairness, it's Hogwarts itself that is all but impregnable. Legolas - 26/07/2010 03:55:02 PM 1908 Views
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Harry's anger management issues? StormCrow - 12/07/2010 07:14:58 PM 1935 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:40:40 PM 1955 Views
Nah, not deliberate. StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:14:20 PM 2024 Views
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This response implies the experience of being both?? StormCrow - 13/07/2010 03:23:29 PM 1938 Views
On Ginny: Kronin al'Sulc - 12/07/2010 10:36:47 PM 2063 Views
This was my interpretation too and why I didn't pay much attention to it at the time. *NM* StormCrow - 13/07/2010 02:53:08 PM 992 Views
I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:45:28 AM 2196 Views
Re: I've noticed a lot of the same things, probably because I've reread this book so many times... Camilla - 13/07/2010 08:58:10 AM 1940 Views
So much (chapters 1-3) *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:35:57 PM 2182 Views
Hm. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:38:05 PM 2002 Views
Re: Hm. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:39:08 PM 2016 Views
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Re: Hm. Cockatiel of Doom - 13/07/2010 04:41:12 AM 1829 Views
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The thing that tipped me off Camilla - 12/07/2010 09:53:01 PM 1930 Views
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I re-read a couple weeks ago, and I was highly amused by all the little things she worked in nossy - 14/07/2010 04:09:19 AM 2014 Views
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Ooh, yes. Cockatiel of Doom - 16/07/2010 12:19:13 AM 1782 Views
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Tiny tiny inconsistency (?) in Ch. 12 Cockatiel of Doom - 17/07/2010 04:23:15 PM 2010 Views
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I like it. Thank you. Cockatiel of Doom - 20/07/2010 12:53:37 AM 2124 Views
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I have no idea *spoilers* Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:47:58 PM 2119 Views
I agree... StormCrow - 12/07/2010 09:19:59 PM 2105 Views
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Kid? Camilla - 14/07/2010 02:01:30 PM 2032 Views
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you don't read instructions, do you? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:49:24 PM 2079 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 12/07/2010 07:50:23 PM 2007 Views
Re: Heh. Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:51:40 PM 2002 Views
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Wha? Nate - 12/07/2010 07:50:44 PM 2079 Views
Re: Wha? Camilla - 12/07/2010 07:52:21 PM 2034 Views
Pff. Nate - 12/07/2010 07:54:54 PM 2023 Views
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I was 10. Darth_Katie - 13/07/2010 04:13:44 AM 2096 Views
Ah book orders...man you just brought back nostalgic memories. I miss being a kid Dark Knight - 13/07/2010 04:42:12 AM 2153 Views
I was 16. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 08:24:02 AM 2031 Views
1999 Camilla - 13/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 2019 Views
What do you mean by adult version? aria - 13/07/2010 02:15:40 PM 2142 Views
Re: What do you mean by adult version? Camilla - 13/07/2010 02:17:40 PM 2023 Views
They started publishing copies with 'adult' covers so people wouldn't be caught out reading Chas - 13/07/2010 11:53:46 PM 2069 Views
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When Prisoner of Azkaban was a hardback. Elaine - 13/07/2010 02:23:57 PM 2047 Views
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Just before Goblet of Fire came out. nossy - 14/07/2010 04:04:21 AM 2048 Views
The first five were out, waited for HBP. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:20:39 AM 2178 Views
You're making me want to talk about toadface Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:06:25 PM 2065 Views
Sorry! Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:36:11 AM 2141 Views
Very early. Beginning of 1999, so it had just come out in the States. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/07/2010 08:54:06 AM 1277 Views
I held out quite awhile because I don't like "fads" Deadsy - 14/07/2010 02:04:37 PM 2009 Views
Lol! aria - 14/07/2010 08:54:47 PM 2102 Views
I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 06:39:16 AM 2122 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Deadsy - 15/07/2010 10:01:04 AM 2278 Views
Re: I did the same thing. Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 05:44:28 PM 2186 Views
I would have, if I had known there was hype. I know I would have. nossy - 15/07/2010 03:28:50 PM 2184 Views
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I think I was first! Monkey - 23/07/2010 07:05:08 PM 2121 Views
Aged 13 or 14 - a while before the first movie (which was Christmas 2001). *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:13:55 PM 1261 Views
Jesus Christ. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:04:46 PM 2253 Views
^That was me. *NM* Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 1273 Views
I was going to ask if it was. *NM* Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:04:59 PM 1219 Views
Aw. I was just feeling flattered as I didn't think Tor had read that many of my posts. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:15:52 AM 1233 Views
Besides, you've met me, you should know how old I am. *NM* Legolas - 27/07/2010 12:16:23 AM 1277 Views
I am very bad at guessing age when I meet people in person Camilla - 27/07/2010 09:05:35 AM 2645 Views
Suggestions for the Re-read Rebekah - 12/07/2010 08:33:25 AM 2073 Views
I like it so far Camilla - 13/07/2010 10:16:49 AM 2038 Views
I can try that for the next book. Rebekah - 13/07/2010 11:21:01 PM 2026 Views
This is my first official time participating and its been fun so far! StormCrow - 14/07/2010 05:16:48 PM 1998 Views
Unfortunately, no. (Silly me, pretending someone's still going to read all my posts... ) *NM* Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:20:35 PM 1245 Views
Can we get chapter discussions everyday? *NM* Dark Knight - 15/07/2010 06:40:30 PM 1198 Views
Inconsistencies Re: the Potter's death... fionwe1987 - 15/07/2010 05:16:45 AM 2403 Views
Because they were tricked? They considered Peter and Sirius to be brothers. Ghavrel - 15/07/2010 07:05:27 AM 2033 Views
That's nonsense.. fionwe1987 - 16/07/2010 01:08:40 AM 1984 Views
Take it up with Rowling, since you don't believe me. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/07/2010 08:19:58 AM 1136 Views
What's there to believe? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:03:13 AM 2068 Views
Peter + Sirius = family. I don't know how to explain it more simply. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/07/2010 08:58:20 AM 1248 Views
Re: That's nonsense.. eucatastrophe - 16/07/2010 09:37:59 AM 2171 Views
Also Camilla - 16/07/2010 11:17:51 AM 2406 Views
You are correct! There is no inconsistency eucatastrophe - 17/07/2010 04:17:35 AM 2113 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:57:58 AM 1953 Views
But Camilla explained it! eucatastrophe - 18/07/2010 09:27:55 AM 2286 Views
Correction Camilla - 18/07/2010 10:58:59 AM 2095 Views
I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:42:18 PM 1976 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 05:51:36 PM 2005 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:17:04 PM 2296 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 06:28:27 PM 2001 Views
That bothers me too. aria - 18/07/2010 07:17:14 PM 2082 Views
Re: That bothers me too. Camilla - 18/07/2010 07:20:44 PM 1946 Views
Yet... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:47:56 PM 2014 Views
Re: Yet... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:02:31 PM 2030 Views
To quote Dumbledore... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 05:57:23 AM 1927 Views
Again... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:35:10 PM 2245 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:00:55 PM 2037 Views
Re: Again... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 06:33:13 AM 2232 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 20/07/2010 04:45:16 PM 2054 Views
Yet another load of bosh. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 01:00:14 AM 2040 Views
Then let's leave it. Camilla - 21/07/2010 06:48:45 AM 2168 Views
Re: Then let's leave it. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 04:19:35 PM 2041 Views
My two cents Seriana Sedai - 19/07/2010 06:11:30 AM 2118 Views
It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... DomA - 14/09/2010 12:11:20 AM 2512 Views
Re: It was just the sort of things these two daredevils would do... Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:20:46 AM 1927 Views
You have to wonder if that's actually true. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:23:31 PM 2024 Views
Re: You have to wonder if that's actually true. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:06:43 PM 2232 Views
I don't know that I'd call it "see through Pettigrew"... Legolas - 26/07/2010 06:22:19 PM 1991 Views
^That was me, too. Oh, dear. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:56:43 PM 2235 Views
Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house aria - 18/07/2010 07:14:21 PM 2029 Views
Re: Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house Tor - 26/07/2010 05:07:48 PM 2450 Views
^ And this, too, was me. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:58:07 PM 2042 Views
Re: ^ And this, too, was me. Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:05:41 PM 1946 Views
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