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I don't know that I'd call it "see through Pettigrew"... Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 06:22:19 PM
Yes. It has always surprised me that the Marauders could not see through Pettigrew. Granted, my image of the dynamics of the group is quite heavily influenced by the Shoebox Project, but I think I got the same impression from the books as well. I am sure someone describes Pettigrew as someone who was always tagging along, rather than a fully fledged friend.

We don't have any indication that Pettigrew was a Death Eater or intended to be one until well after leaving Hogwarts. So for all that time, I don't think there was really anything about him that the Marauders should have noticed but didn't. But absolutely, he is described as always tagging along, and we see the others making fun of him and generally disrespecting him. The Marauders really seem to have a hierarchy of three levels, which I suppose is realistic enough - Sirius and James lead the group, Remus is also a friend but clearly below them, and Peter is just the guy tagging along.
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That's nonsense.. fionwe1987 - 16/07/2010 01:08:40 AM 2005 Views
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Re: That's nonsense.. eucatastrophe - 16/07/2010 09:37:59 AM 2193 Views
Also Camilla - 16/07/2010 11:17:51 AM 2432 Views
You are correct! There is no inconsistency eucatastrophe - 17/07/2010 04:17:35 AM 2136 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:57:58 AM 1981 Views
But Camilla explained it! eucatastrophe - 18/07/2010 09:27:55 AM 2309 Views
Correction Camilla - 18/07/2010 10:58:59 AM 2120 Views
I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:42:18 PM 2005 Views
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Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 06:17:04 PM 2319 Views
Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... Camilla - 18/07/2010 06:28:27 PM 2025 Views
That bothers me too. aria - 18/07/2010 07:17:14 PM 2110 Views
Re: That bothers me too. Camilla - 18/07/2010 07:20:44 PM 1977 Views
Yet... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:47:56 PM 2038 Views
Re: Yet... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:02:31 PM 2055 Views
To quote Dumbledore... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 05:57:23 AM 1950 Views
Again... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:35:10 PM 2270 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 18/07/2010 08:00:55 PM 2066 Views
Re: Again... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 06:33:13 AM 2256 Views
Re: Again... Camilla - 20/07/2010 04:45:16 PM 2084 Views
Yet another load of bosh. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 01:00:14 AM 2060 Views
Then let's leave it. Camilla - 21/07/2010 06:48:45 AM 2194 Views
Re: Then let's leave it. fionwe1987 - 21/07/2010 04:19:35 PM 2059 Views
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You have to wonder if that's actually true. Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:23:31 PM 2051 Views
Re: You have to wonder if that's actually true. Tor - 26/07/2010 05:06:43 PM 2251 Views
I don't know that I'd call it "see through Pettigrew"... Legolas - 26/07/2010 06:22:19 PM 2013 Views
^That was me, too. Oh, dear. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:56:43 PM 2259 Views
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Re: Since Lily and James were unable to leave the house Tor - 26/07/2010 05:07:48 PM 2465 Views
^ And this, too, was me. Camilla - 26/07/2010 09:58:07 PM 2065 Views
Re: ^ And this, too, was me. Rebekah - 26/07/2010 10:05:41 PM 1971 Views
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