Re: The Marauder's Map seems to be able to do more on this first view than later on...
Camilla Send a noteboard - 02/08/2010 01:40:47 PM
It tells Harry how to get past the statue into the tunnel, by showing him a miniature version of himself. But in later books, there's at least one occasion on which the name shown on the Marauder's Map would not have corresponded with the person Harry could see a miniature version of... what's up with that?
I cannot remember this. What were you thinking of?
I do suspect Rowling painted herself into a corner by creating a much too powerful plot device. The Marauder's Map is so fantastically useful and would solve so many problems, she is left with less liberty of plotting, perhaps.
It's also an astonishingly advanced and creative piece of magic. It's hard to imagine even Hermione in her seventh year making something like this. Then again, if you look at the schooling of Hogwarts students, there's not really much emphasis if any on being creative and inventing new things. Hermione is a brilliant student, but not necessarily very creative with spells like James and Sirius (and Snape, while we're at it) apparently are. I still don't know if I really buy it, though - Voldemort would kill to have a tool as powerful as the Marauder's Map, surely (sees through Polyjuice Potion, through invisibility cloaks including Harry's, and so on).
It is reminiscent of some of the creative work of the twins, though.
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Characters.
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Aunt Marge
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say...
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Stan Shunpike.
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Re: Stan Shunpike.
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape.
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Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape.
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I think, maybe, it's comparing with other wizarding schools in the world.
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Colin Creevey is working class.
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Correct me if I'm wrong
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Themes, if we can discern any already this early in the book. *NM*
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Aaaah, Sirius.
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius.
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius.
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Writing style.
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It is a better book.
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Its much more mature writing style I think
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Re: Its much more mature writing style I think
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Foreshadowings, details that turn out to be important, etc. *NM*
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That is very well done in this book, I thought.
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Dont foget the most important foreshadowing!
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin!
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Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters?
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Could be, could be.
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Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM*
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here?
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Re: Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here?
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Writing style.
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point
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Introduction of the Dementors. *NM*
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They are Rowling's most terrifying creation
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Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM*
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Yes
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I thinking something thats a little off topic
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Re: I thinking something thats a little off topic
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends
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Re: "He's at Hogwarts."
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I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers)
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Re: Characters.
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Lupin vs. Snape
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Re: Lupin vs. Snape
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Other things you want to comment on.
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart.
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Re: Plotting and writing.
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I caught that too.
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Re: I caught that too.
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I suspect....
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM*
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The Marauder's Map seems to be able to do more on this first view than later on...
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Re: The Marauder's Map seems to be able to do more on this first view than later on...
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I think she did a good job of getting the map out of Harry's hands
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Re: I think she did a good job of getting the map out of Harry's hands
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It's not that the map was wrong - on the contrary (book 4 spoilers).
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Re: It's not that the map was wrong - on the contrary (book 4 spoilers).
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No, you and Aria seem to be right - only Harry himself is depicted in miniature.
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Re: No, you and Aria seem to be right - only Harry himself is depicted in miniature.
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Agree about the Twins and my take on Harry's impression of James.
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Re: Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,...
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Re: Characters.
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are.
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Agreed.
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Re: Agreed.
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There are only three named girls in his year in Gryffindor, that I'm aware of.
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Re: There are only three named girls in his year in Gryffindor, that I'm aware of.
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But the Sorting Hat decides, and they can't refuse students that I'm aware of...
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Re: But the Sorting Hat decides, and they can't refuse students that I'm aware of...
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Crookshanks.
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I knew I saw this somewhere.
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Re: I knew I saw this somewhere.
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Did they come out and explain Crookshanks?
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Re: Did they come out and explain Crookshanks?
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Thanks, thought I was loosing it... well, maybe I am, but I can still read.
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM*
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss.
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I really enjoyed the first quidditch match.
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Re: Other thoughts.
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Re: Other thoughts.
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Characters.
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Re: Characters.
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See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers)
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Re: Plotting and writing.
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I think it's a good thing she explains her clues.
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killing
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Chapters 21-22. *NM*
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Plotting and writing.
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And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM*
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Overall thoughts. *NM*
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Overarching plot and themes. *NM*
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM*
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More of a question, really
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I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life.
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Well, but the question still remains
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I suppose this is more or less the right place for this.
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I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference.
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Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever.
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Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus.
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Suggestions for the re-read.
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I knew I was gonna forget something.
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Perhaps
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I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM*
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<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead>
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I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up.
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Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up.
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I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately.
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Yes
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