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Re: Plotting and writing. Camilla Send a noteboard - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM

All comes together and all clues are spelled out (ok, saving a couple for the final two chapters). Rowling really does not want us to miss how clever she has been. Or, a more generous way of putting it, she wants to make sure her younger readers don't get all confused.

"He's at Hogwarts", Fudge's newspaper, Neville's list of passwords, Crookshanks.

And a new clue laying the ground for Rowling's puncturing of the happy "all will be well and we'll live happily ever after" is sown and instantly buried in the drama of death threats and Snape's deranged ramblings and attack on a teacher, not to mention the TRUTH and the reveal of Pettigrew:

You forgot to take your potion tonight, so I took a gobletful along.

In fact, this is one of the tendencies of this book that I really like. It comes in waves. All is well. Snape has been neutralised, Peter is captured, Sirius will be free, and then one misstep takes them from happy-land and WHAM into chaos, death and despair (only to be averted with a time-turner).
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - 28/07/2010 12:00:14 PM 2656 Views
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say... - 28/07/2010 01:40:37 PM 1752 Views
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Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 1558 Views
Re: Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:19:41 PM 1472 Views
True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM 1437 Views
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If I'm not mistaken - 30/07/2010 04:36:18 PM 1447 Views
Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM 1662 Views
It's not entirely clear, true. - 08/08/2010 02:44:50 PM 1576 Views
Incorrect - 28/07/2010 04:17:09 PM 1443 Views
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Re: Incorrect - 28/07/2010 06:35:31 PM 1506 Views
Colin Creevey is working class. - 28/07/2010 06:32:45 PM 1454 Views
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True - 28/07/2010 06:50:30 PM 1492 Views
Judging by his father's profession, yes. - 28/07/2010 06:53:02 PM 1494 Views
Re: Judging by his father's profession, yes. - 28/07/2010 07:34:41 PM 1347 Views
Right. - 29/07/2010 02:28:34 PM 1450 Views
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Themes, if we can discern any already this early in the book. *NM* - 28/07/2010 12:04:47 PM 842 Views
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And the beginning of "appearances can be deceiving". - 02/08/2010 11:48:36 PM 1394 Views
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Aaaah, Sirius. - 28/07/2010 01:21:32 PM 1556 Views
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius. - 28/07/2010 02:22:17 PM 1327 Views
I was talking about that, yes, among other things. - 28/07/2010 07:00:08 PM 1385 Views
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Thats easy really - 28/07/2010 02:05:26 PM 1388 Views
Writing style. - 28/07/2010 12:07:24 PM 1573 Views
It is a better book. - 28/07/2010 02:00:54 PM 1427 Views
Its much more mature writing style I think - 28/07/2010 02:09:33 PM 1627 Views
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Re: Its much more mature writing style I think - 28/07/2010 02:34:37 PM 1349 Views
Re: Its much more mature writing style I think - 28/07/2010 02:36:38 PM 1335 Views
Re: It is a better book. - 03/08/2010 05:53:30 PM 1369 Views
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Foreshadowings, details that turn out to be important, etc. *NM* - 28/07/2010 12:08:07 PM 780 Views
That is very well done in this book, I thought. - 28/07/2010 02:08:21 PM 1379 Views
Dont foget the most important foreshadowing! - 28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM 1344 Views
not yet. - 28/07/2010 02:23:28 PM 1358 Views
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Re: That is very well done in this book, I thought. - 03/08/2010 05:54:06 PM 1395 Views
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin! - 29/07/2010 11:48:55 AM 1515 Views
Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM 729 Views
Could be, could be. - 29/07/2010 02:37:41 PM 1376 Views
Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:41:38 PM 741 Views
Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 726 Views
He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 1482 Views
Re: He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:10:34 PM 1430 Views
Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here? - 30/07/2010 01:48:06 PM 1385 Views
I don't think it's too early. - 30/07/2010 06:26:15 PM 1334 Views
I don't think it's too early to argue that. - 03/08/2010 06:02:17 PM 1555 Views
Themes. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:24:31 AM 673 Views
Death and fear of death - 29/07/2010 11:51:25 AM 1371 Views
Writing style. - 29/07/2010 10:26:07 AM 1437 Views
"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point - 29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM 1463 Views
I was amazed at all the tiny details - 29/07/2010 03:25:08 PM 1288 Views
Re: I was amazed at all the tiny details - 29/07/2010 03:27:04 PM 1408 Views
Introduction of the Dementors. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:26:59 AM 755 Views
They are Rowling's most terrifying creation - 29/07/2010 12:00:34 PM 1364 Views
Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:31:47 PM 727 Views
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I thinking something thats a little off topic - 29/07/2010 02:40:36 PM 1343 Views
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Mission accomplished. - 29/07/2010 02:48:35 PM 1420 Views
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And among her most original, I'd say. - 30/07/2010 01:53:25 PM 1381 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:51:05 PM 1312 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:52:55 PM 1456 Views
I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1349 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1365 Views
Good point. - 05/08/2010 11:06:10 PM 1415 Views
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Characters. - 30/07/2010 02:07:20 PM 1297 Views
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Yeah, he knew because of Sirius' little slip. - 30/07/2010 06:27:36 PM 1338 Views
I doubt Sirius had to actually say that it was Lupin though. - 31/07/2010 04:33:38 AM 1322 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 640 Views
She is getting good at misdirection - 30/07/2010 02:50:40 PM 1278 Views
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart. - 30/07/2010 06:19:16 PM 1352 Views
Agree, especially about Neville - 31/07/2010 06:21:25 AM 1454 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 31/07/2010 09:56:53 AM 760 Views
Yes, excellent scene. - 09/08/2010 08:06:05 PM 1351 Views
Chapters 10-12. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:18 PM 664 Views
Characters. - 02/08/2010 12:50:36 PM 1431 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 630 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 02/08/2010 01:36:49 PM 1571 Views
I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:50:03 PM 1237 Views
I think it's just an unfortunate way of expressing herself. - 02/08/2010 02:53:26 PM 1317 Views
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I suspect.... - 03/08/2010 03:17:32 PM 1511 Views
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Mmmkay. - 04/08/2010 02:39:14 PM 1409 Views
Trelawny's Predictions - 02/08/2010 02:56:53 PM 1327 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 752 Views
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What if - 02/08/2010 11:50:28 PM 1199 Views
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Chapters 13-15. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:57 PM 753 Views
Characters. - 03/08/2010 05:25:47 PM 1331 Views
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Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:21:17 PM 1374 Views
Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:23:35 PM 1477 Views
OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1431 Views
Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:37:18 PM 1355 Views
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Re: Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:49:59 PM 1332 Views
Agreed. - 08/08/2010 03:03:19 PM 1418 Views
Re: 200 people - 09/08/2010 12:09:53 AM 1357 Views
Well. - 09/08/2010 08:21:24 AM 1463 Views
True - 09/08/2010 02:02:52 PM 1456 Views
we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 1586 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 727 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 03/08/2010 05:31:43 PM 1464 Views
Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1360 Views
Yes - 08/08/2010 02:25:12 PM 1333 Views
I knew I saw this somewhere. - 09/08/2010 08:16:01 PM 1260 Views
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pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 1431 Views
Did they come out and explain Crookshanks? - 11/08/2010 04:20:18 PM 1440 Views
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM 752 Views
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:48:57 PM 1481 Views
Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:57:06 PM 1363 Views
For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1310 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1405 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1285 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1385 Views
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Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1351 Views
Chapters 16-18. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:11 PM 765 Views
Characters. - 04/08/2010 04:16:39 PM 1398 Views
Re: Characters. - 04/08/2010 05:18:56 PM 1380 Views
Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 1507 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1390 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1255 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:01:48 PM 1185 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1416 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:12:48 PM 1297 Views
OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1330 Views
Re: OK - 08/08/2010 03:16:23 PM 1406 Views
Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1261 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1141 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1395 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 866 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 04/08/2010 05:19:45 PM 1290 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:09:23 PM 1438 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:11:43 PM 1378 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:14:04 PM 1208 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:15:51 PM 1252 Views
Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 727 Views
Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM 1156 Views
Re: Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:45:53 PM 1610 Views
See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 1715 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM 1427 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM 1818 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 1641 Views
Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1438 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1400 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 614 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM 1505 Views
I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1367 Views
Re: I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:16:37 PM 1363 Views
Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1317 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 687 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1256 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 1465 Views
Re: Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:18:12 PM 1273 Views
Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 697 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 765 Views
Re: And for the last time in this book... characters? - 06/08/2010 06:26:23 PM 1355 Views
Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1184 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 06:27:54 PM 1221 Views
I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1425 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 780 Views
Re: And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. - 06/08/2010 06:28:40 PM 1367 Views
I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 1535 Views
Re: I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 08:49:50 AM 1364 Views
Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 737 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1269 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1291 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 690 Views
Things Are Not What They Seem - 01/08/2010 11:15:23 PM 1257 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 749 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1261 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1408 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1330 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1153 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1275 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1359 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1405 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1324 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1295 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1309 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1444 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1392 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1346 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1224 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 665 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 687 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1250 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 1456 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1255 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1334 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1447 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1295 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1420 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1340 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 580 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1374 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1423 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1302 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 720 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1366 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1333 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1271 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1311 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 677 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 748 Views

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