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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) Camilla Send a noteboard - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM
Dumbledore is not infallible, but it really is a little out of character for him not to have thought to search the shack. Even if he did not know Sirius knew about it. He did know the story of Sirius tricking Snape into following Lupin there, so it should not have been too much of a leap. Could Dumbledore have suspected Sirus' innocence? Then again, that would be a little strange. I'd imagine he'd have spoken up about it.

Dumbledore is irresponsible through all of the first four books, honestly. He lets Harry and other students get into mortal danger rather a lot, and only rarely do we get the feeling he's really in control of the situation. Only after Voldemort's return is confirmed does he start looking out properly.


I have a feeling he avoids shielding them too much because he knows Harry must learn a lot in order to have any chance against Voldemort, who Dumbledore knows will return. I always had a feeling he was following things closely ready to intervene if it got too far. But then again, there is no way he would have the time if things got out of hand (and he doesn't intervene when Lupin becomes a werewolf, for example). I suppose I may have to conclude that that is just wishful thinking on my part.

Snape is thoroughly deranged. It is delightful. He really has snapped. Compared to the earlier books it is a little out of character, but I think that is because we have only seen him in conflict with children (where he is the one in power, indisputably), and disagreeing with Dumbledore, where he must submit. This is Snape faced with old enemies from school, people who are on a more or less level playing field, but who had a higher status than him then -- and he has clearly looked forward to enjoying the reversal in status (he is professor, Sirius is prisoner on the run). When this is taken away, or at least not accepted as readily as he would have liked…. I suppose it is also compounded by his having looked forward to saving Harry, thereby getting "revenge" on James, and here too his ideal set-up is thwarted. It is rather well written.

See my post - the Lily factor is what makes for the acting deranged instead of cool ruthless sarcasm. The other factors contribute, but she is the key.


Oh, yes. I agree entirely. As I said in my reply to your post. It is obvious when you mention it. And it brings more loveliness to the scene. It really is one of my absolute favourite ones.

Hermione's reaction to attacking a teacher is very in character. She has been on a bit of a rule-breaking high, I think, but this seems to take her down a little.

Attacking a teacher is indeed a rather different category from their usual rulebreaking, though.


Yes. There is a sense of "oh, shit. Did we got too far this time?"

Harry… God, I wish Harry would stop shouting. And I know it is a bit early to get fed up with that particular part of his personality (and I know I said I liked it in the beginning of this book), but seriously. I am never having children if they could grow up to become teenagers with issues.

Yeah. It's amazing how he is all raging teenager one moment, and then has to be the mature adult authority figure when Sirius and Remus get carried away and want to kill Peter. Especially since he was going to kill Sirius himself in the previous chapter (I was really wondering how he intended to do that, incidentally).


Perhaps turn him into a tea pot and break him?

On that topic, the things we learn later on about Avada Kedavra and Horcruxes make it clear how important Harry's intervention here is, and how important it is that Sirius and Remus don't become murderers.


Yes. That was what I was getting at in my post on killing. It is an early insight into one of her major themes.

Peter is predictably an unpleasant lump of unpleasantness. But of course that only serves to highlight how wonderfully cool both Lupin and Sirius are (sorry, if I can't go all fangirl at these scenes, when can I?). Lupin silences him with a look, Sirius' contempt is overpowering. I would like to have known what made Sirius think Lupin (rather than Peter) was the spy. I know I am terribly influenced by the Shoebox Project when it gets to this, but it always did seem odd.

But yes. They are both lovely. "Then you should have died" and "What is to be gained" is also very good, I love heroes with integrity and a history. And I suppose it is emblematic of the good vs evil. Good guys don't ask what's in it for them. And as Sirius replies "only innocent lives"… Definite good guy. It is a very clear distinction. Lupin's "Goodbye, Peter" is also very good. Very menacing.

I can't agree about Lupin and Sirius, actually. Harry has to stop them from doing stupid things, and as I remember mentioning elsewhere (one of the previous discussions, I'm fairly sure, though I'm not sure how it could've been relevant to those...), I really rather doubt Sirius' claim that he'd have died for Peter just like that.


You don't think Sirius and Lupin have integrity? Or that they aren't good guys? I don't see en inherent opposition between either and doing stupid things. In fact, Rowling's heroes seem to thrive on doing stupid.

I wouldn't stake my life on their willingness to sacrifice themselves for Peter, but I wouldn't rule it out, either. It would be like Harry sacrificing his life for Neville (at this point in the books) -- I could see it happen.

I also like how Sirius bumps Snape's head against the roof. I said I like my heroes with integrity and history, but I also like when they occasionally get petty and childish because of that history. People who are too perfect are never really interesting.

Hehe. True, that.
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Heh. Rebekah - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1916 Views
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Other thoughts. *NM* Legolas - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 939 Views
killing Camilla - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1747 Views
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Absolutely. Seriana Sedai - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1922 Views
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I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. StormCrow - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1637 Views
Well, but the question still remains Camilla - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1754 Views
Oh, got it. StormCrow - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1842 Views
Ah, interesting Camilla - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1891 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. StormCrow - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1813 Views
I never had any. Elaine - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1731 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. Rebekah - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1818 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. Camilla - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1951 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. Cockatiel of Doom - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1906 Views
Hehehe Camilla - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1821 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. Legolas - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1733 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* Legolas - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 947 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* Rebekah - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 936 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. nossy - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1737 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. Camilla - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 1953 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. nossy - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1778 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. Camilla - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1846 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1949 Views
I was wondering when this would come up Camilla - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1780 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. Legolas - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1877 Views
Perhaps Camilla - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1821 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* Legolas - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 850 Views
Yet Camilla - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1867 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> Tim - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1901 Views
I may be missing a reference Camilla - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1776 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* Tim - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 974 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. Rebekah - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1880 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. Camilla - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1807 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. Rebekah - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1758 Views
Yes Camilla - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1760 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* Legolas - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 933 Views
There are no words *NM* Camilla - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 1022 Views
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