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Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. Tor Send a noteboard - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM
It is an upper class setting, of course, but since all wizarding children in Britain and Ireland have to visit the school, I understand, there'd have to be working class children. But if Rowling doesn't give them the accents, we'll not so easily find them. Snape is one, one might argue, but one who managed to work his way up to upper middle class - we only find out about his background in book seven, really.


This is interesting. I have always assumed that there must be several schools of witchcraft and wizardry in Great Britain. People frquently say things like "Hogwarts is the best school" (I can only think of Hagrid in the first book, but I have a feeling I have read it elsewhere) and comments about accepting children of Muggles. If there is only one school, and all magical children in Britain and Ireland go there, then it doesn't make sense to talk about it being the best school.
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Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 2081 Views
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM 1987 Views
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If I'm not mistaken - 30/07/2010 04:36:18 PM 1970 Views
Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM 2332 Views
It's not entirely clear, true. - 08/08/2010 02:44:50 PM 2103 Views
Incorrect - 28/07/2010 04:17:09 PM 2010 Views
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Colin Creevey is working class. - 28/07/2010 06:32:45 PM 1999 Views
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Dont foget the most important foreshadowing! - 28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM 1914 Views
not yet. - 28/07/2010 02:23:28 PM 1850 Views
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Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 1034 Views
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point - 29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM 2058 Views
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Introduction of the Dementors. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:26:59 AM 1041 Views
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Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:52:55 PM 1983 Views
I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1866 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1847 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 925 Views
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart. - 30/07/2010 06:19:16 PM 1872 Views
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Characters. - 02/08/2010 12:50:36 PM 1999 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 892 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 02/08/2010 01:36:49 PM 2059 Views
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I suspect.... - 03/08/2010 03:17:32 PM 2032 Views
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Trelawny's Predictions - 02/08/2010 02:56:53 PM 1849 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 1024 Views
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What if - 02/08/2010 11:50:28 PM 1706 Views
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1953 Views
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we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 2147 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 1004 Views
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Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1854 Views
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pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 1953 Views
Did they come out and explain Crookshanks? - 11/08/2010 04:20:18 PM 1979 Views
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM 1020 Views
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:48:57 PM 2012 Views
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For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1871 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1903 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1811 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1920 Views
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Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1878 Views
Chapters 16-18. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:11 PM 1055 Views
Characters. - 04/08/2010 04:16:39 PM 2004 Views
Re: Characters. - 04/08/2010 05:18:56 PM 1922 Views
Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 2006 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1899 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1803 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:01:48 PM 1722 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1931 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:12:48 PM 1837 Views
OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1864 Views
Re: OK - 08/08/2010 03:16:23 PM 1940 Views
Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1821 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1669 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1951 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 1142 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 04/08/2010 05:19:45 PM 1775 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:09:23 PM 1975 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:11:43 PM 1938 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:14:04 PM 1744 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:15:51 PM 1813 Views
Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 1002 Views
Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM 1688 Views
Re: Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:45:53 PM 2211 Views
See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 2259 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM 1980 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM 2327 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 2146 Views
Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1973 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1943 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 917 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM 2137 Views
I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1909 Views
Re: I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:16:37 PM 1909 Views
Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1835 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 959 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1784 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 2001 Views
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Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 966 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 1027 Views
Re: And for the last time in this book... characters? - 06/08/2010 06:26:23 PM 1884 Views
Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1721 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 06:27:54 PM 1731 Views
I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1968 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 1046 Views
Re: And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. - 06/08/2010 06:28:40 PM 1846 Views
I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 2089 Views
Re: I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 08:49:50 AM 1856 Views
Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 1041 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1795 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1798 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 975 Views
Things Are Not What They Seem - 01/08/2010 11:15:23 PM 1776 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 1051 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1777 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1949 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1824 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1668 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1786 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1875 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1920 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1846 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1760 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1842 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1979 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1940 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1848 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1761 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 958 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 952 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1770 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 1979 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1805 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1876 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1980 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1810 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1910 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1847 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 862 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1898 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1936 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1806 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 989 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1927 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1834 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1786 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1787 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 946 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 1036 Views

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