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Re: Characters. Camilla Send a noteboard - 08/08/2010 02:23:35 PM
No new characters here, which makes sense as we're past halfway. More about Lupin, the Marauders, and various other characters, but I think you'd have to say the most important character in this group of chapters is Hermione, culminating in the Slap (which remains awesome, and one of my favourite scenes in the movie :P ).

It's more of a punch in the movie, I think. But yes, it was delightful :D

Yeah. Certainly an excellent moment.

Ron: it is nice to see him enjoying the spotlight. Very in character. And I like how his story grows and grows. Don't we get something similar from him in a later book as well?

It's kind of cute.

And yeah, when he joins the Quidditch team in book 5 or 6.

Hagrid: one of his best moments in the whole series is talking sense into Rob and Harry about Hermione. I am not normally a great fan of Hagrid (I never really got what people see in him), but this one is a lovely shading of his character.

We get a little glimpse of his depth there. It's a nice moment, because I get the feeling he initially started out as some kind of comic-relief character.

Harry: Snape is quite right that Harry is arrogant in disregarding the hard work that is done to keep him safe. As is Lupin, of course, but Harry acknowledges that (to some extent) so that is not as satisfying to point out.

This is the real beginning of Utterly Annoying Harry. I know the character's had a hard ilfe and all, and that he's becoming a teenager, but he's just so hard to like in the next books.

His ditching Neville (apparently leaving him waiting in the common room for his return) also has me less than sympathetic. The more I think about it, the more Harry is an insufferable brat in this book. Don't even get me started on his constant raging. Sometimes it is all right, but it gets annoying when he reacts to the smallest provocation like that. It may be an interesting aspect to his character, psychologically -- he has had a terrible childhood &c., &c., but he still annoys me from about here on out because of this irrationality. Then again, I suppose he would annoy me even more if he were perfect.

Heh, see above. ;)

Lupin's whole intervention for and against Harry regarding the map is delightful.

You love anything Lupin does. ;)


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But with good reason!

I think he's almost the perfect teacher. Lets the kids get away with a little and grow on their own, but protects them where he needs to and also tells them off when he needs to. It's good.


Precisely.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - 28/07/2010 12:00:14 PM 3307 Views
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Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 1893 Views
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Dont foget the most important foreshadowing! - 28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM 1709 Views
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin! - 29/07/2010 11:48:55 AM 1850 Views
Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM 933 Views
Could be, could be. - 29/07/2010 02:37:41 PM 1729 Views
Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:41:38 PM 936 Views
Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 936 Views
He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 1848 Views
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point - 29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM 1839 Views
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I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1690 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1680 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 843 Views
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Characters. - 02/08/2010 12:50:36 PM 1816 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 817 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 943 Views
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1764 Views
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we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 1977 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 916 Views
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Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1687 Views
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pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 1769 Views
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM 934 Views
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For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1661 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1731 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1625 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1745 Views
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Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1678 Views
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Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 1836 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1743 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1615 Views
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Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1755 Views
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OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1680 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1607 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1489 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1750 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 1064 Views
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Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 923 Views
Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM 1509 Views
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See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 2049 Views
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Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1774 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1741 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 823 Views
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I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1734 Views
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Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1644 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 873 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1589 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 1811 Views
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Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 888 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 947 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1527 Views
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I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1798 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 966 Views
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I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 1883 Views
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Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 937 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1634 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1627 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 880 Views
Things Are Not What They Seem - 01/08/2010 11:15:23 PM 1604 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 952 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1601 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1772 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1653 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1493 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1610 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1695 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1737 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1665 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1604 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1669 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1798 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1741 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1687 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1597 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 875 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 867 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1586 Views
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Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1626 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1699 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1784 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1623 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1748 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1674 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 776 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1714 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1752 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1629 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 900 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1734 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1669 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1620 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1624 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 863 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 946 Views

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