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Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) Camilla Send a noteboard - 16/08/2010 12:36:30 PM
True. It is odd. Since the pattern, focusing through Harry, is so ingrained in the series, and in the whole structure of the series: we know what Harry knows, which is why we are so often wrong in our assumptions (well, I am, anyway). Deviating from that pattern is a strange choice to make.

It's necessary to build up tension and show some things that would otherwise require contrived methods to show, I guess. If you just leave this chapter out of book four, and explain it all at the end, you'd have to be far more limited with the explanation and leave out some of the good things in this chapter: the social commentary, the Peter characterization, and the like. And you wouldn't have that nagging voice in your head telling you there's more to fear than just the Tri-Wizard Tournament tests. It's similar in the other cases. I think these chapters improve the books they're in and the series as a whole, honestly.


Oh, I agree. The book would have to be substantially re-written without these scenes. And I suspect that is why I am not such a great fan of them in principle (although I greatly enjoy reading them) -- they are an easier way of doing something, which means it would be more impressive if she could have done the same thing while keeping to her pattern. It is all me being grumpy. I just feel that the focalising through Harry is such an ingrained part of the Harry Potter universe, and it is the main excuse for not giving things away to the reader. Therefore, when she breaks the pattern, it is very obviously because she has not managed to hold it.

Ah, yes. Again, this isn't really terribly strong plotting. A sequence is planned, then disturbed, then returned to status quo so that the plan can go ahead. It is a little disappointing after the strong plotting of the third book. This whole book feels rather more unfocused (as I remember it) than the third. It is more a series of plot cupons than a coherent plot -- even though there is a plot in the background of course.

I don't know, it works great in terms of misleading the reader. We obviously think that the events at the World Cup will prove hugely significant once we figure out what happened - if a reader is particularly attentive and trying to figure out what Voldemort's up to, he must assume the plan has changed since the first chapter. In the meantime, ultimately far more important events like the Moody garbage bins incident are slipped in in far more subtle ways. But then in the end the World Cup proves important only for Hermione's house elves thing, and for the Bagman thing.


Yes, but again, the misleading the reader is somewhat cheapened by the plot not being coherent. It is really just down to Aristotle -- a plot not driven by necessity, but by a series of events, is not an optimal plot. I prefer plots to be surprising by very well integrated if plotting is going to be a point (as it is in Harry Potter). But I must stress that I say this based on how I remember this book. It'll be interesting to see if I still think so after reading it closely again.

This book simply has more balls to juggle than PoA, so to speak, and Rowling does so quite competently, I think, throwing red herrings around along with real hints, and setting up or further developing tons of characters and plotlines for later books while keeping this book strong in its own right. Okay, Voldemort's original evil plan is of a remarkable simplicity, but so what? The book has enough complexity with everything else that it doesn't really matter.


She does it competently, true. And she has made her own job more difficult in this book, definitely.

Well, it is not too large a leap of faith ;)

I guess not, but I'm having fun in this reread with trying to put myself in the head of characters for whom Rowling does not spell everything out in detail - Snape last time, Peter now. And for Peter, it still has to grate.


Indeed. I tend to do the same. When I was younger I would always root for the villain in superhero films and the like. It is always nice to be able to trace motivation and reactions.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Four Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 16/08/2010 09:28:48 AM 6422 Views
Chapters 1-3: A different beginning - 16/08/2010 09:30:26 AM 2576 Views
Early characters - 16/08/2010 09:32:12 AM 2641 Views
Wormtail and Dudley - 16/08/2010 10:58:35 AM 2722 Views
Re: Wormtail and Dudley - 16/08/2010 11:11:11 AM 2655 Views
Something you just said there.... - 16/08/2010 06:03:53 PM 2703 Views
Re: Early characters - 16/08/2010 11:02:23 AM 2971 Views
Re. Pigwidgeon. - 16/08/2010 02:39:21 PM 2853 Views
Re: Re. Pigwidgeon. - 16/08/2010 03:27:39 PM 2717 Views
Re: Early characters - 17/08/2010 01:23:59 AM 2833 Views
I like your explaination of why Voldemort calls Peter Wormtail - 17/08/2010 07:49:22 PM 2757 Views
Early plotting. - 16/08/2010 09:32:52 AM 2691 Views
That first chapter works very well, I think. - 16/08/2010 10:20:48 AM 2695 Views
Re: That first chapter works very well, I think. - 16/08/2010 11:19:10 AM 2777 Views
Re: That first chapter works very well, I think. - 17/08/2010 12:49:42 AM 2776 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 16/08/2010 11:02:09 AM 2805 Views
It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 11:38:14 AM 2758 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 11:47:16 AM 2774 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 12:16:16 PM 2988 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 12:36:30 PM 2652 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 17/08/2010 01:15:43 AM 2630 Views
No, it does. - 17/08/2010 01:24:16 AM 2673 Views
Re: No, it does. - 17/08/2010 01:45:00 AM 2711 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 17/08/2010 11:22:57 AM 2684 Views
Any other comments/observations - 16/08/2010 09:33:34 AM 2572 Views
Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 10:37:10 AM 2901 Views
Re: Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 11:30:08 AM 2697 Views
Re: Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 11:45:43 AM 2802 Views
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Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 08:22:33 AM 2670 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 11:07:43 AM 2781 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 12:18:30 PM 2753 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 12:24:41 PM 2730 Views
It's all in how you say it. - 17/08/2010 03:18:48 PM 2697 Views
Amos annoyed me too. - 18/08/2010 08:29:56 PM 2680 Views
And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning... - 17/08/2010 07:47:43 PM 2610 Views
Plotting - anything of note? - 17/08/2010 08:23:53 AM 2848 Views
Re: Plotting - anything of note? - 17/08/2010 11:10:22 AM 2724 Views
The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying... - 17/08/2010 12:29:50 PM 2735 Views
Re: The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying... - 17/08/2010 12:38:09 PM 2646 Views
I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM* - 17/08/2010 12:40:45 PM 1402 Views
That must be annoying - 17/08/2010 12:42:12 PM 2642 Views
It is, but fortunately it's rare. - 17/08/2010 12:49:25 PM 2574 Views
Percy's attachment to authority - 17/08/2010 03:06:12 PM 2598 Views
Any other comments/observations. - 17/08/2010 08:24:20 AM 2698 Views
Cars - 17/08/2010 11:11:18 AM 2854 Views
Heh. - 18/08/2010 12:40:48 AM 2623 Views
Evidently Quidditch is inspired by rugby here. - 17/08/2010 12:40:10 PM 2738 Views
Re: Evidently Quidditch is inspired by rugby here. - 17/08/2010 12:43:15 PM 2835 Views
A mistake? - 18/08/2010 12:38:38 AM 2852 Views
Re: A mistake? - 18/08/2010 02:39:56 AM 2525 Views
Re: A mistake? - 18/08/2010 09:45:17 AM 2699 Views
Chapters 7-9 - The Quidditch World Cup and Death Eaters - 16/08/2010 09:34:26 AM 2562 Views
Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people. - 18/08/2010 12:44:16 AM 2662 Views
Mr Weasley is a darling. - 18/08/2010 12:47:13 AM 2607 Views
Re: Mr Weasley is a darling. - 18/08/2010 09:46:53 AM 2623 Views
Crouch - 18/08/2010 02:00:34 AM 3141 Views
Re: Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people. - 18/08/2010 09:43:42 AM 2705 Views
Plotting - 18/08/2010 12:44:48 AM 2658 Views
Is it just me, - 18/08/2010 12:51:08 AM 2601 Views
Re: Is it just me, - 18/08/2010 09:48:06 AM 2642 Views
Re: Plotting - 18/08/2010 09:41:56 AM 2737 Views
A few more... - 18/08/2010 02:00:17 PM 2847 Views
Re: A few more... - 18/08/2010 02:13:25 PM 2642 Views
Other stuff. - 18/08/2010 12:45:13 AM 2592 Views
Krum Catching the Snitch - 18/08/2010 02:28:58 AM 2763 Views
Huh, I never thought of that - 18/08/2010 09:50:35 AM 2618 Views
It makes a certain amount of sense, I think... - 18/08/2010 01:23:46 PM 2601 Views
Re: It makes a certain amount of sense, I think... - 19/08/2010 02:43:16 AM 2380 Views
A lot of pent-up anger there, I sense *NM* - 19/08/2010 09:24:51 AM 2578 Views
Nice list, yeah. - 19/08/2010 10:51:07 AM 2696 Views
Clothes and other schools - 18/08/2010 09:44:02 AM 2603 Views
There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 01:37:14 PM 2650 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 01:45:58 PM 2600 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 02:08:28 PM 2684 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 02:21:13 PM 2594 Views
Chapters 10-12: Back to Hogwarts and the Tri-Wizard Tournament. *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:34:48 AM 1425 Views
Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. *NM* - 19/08/2010 11:21:29 AM 1434 Views
Skeeter, Moody and more Weasleys. - 19/08/2010 04:03:20 PM 2292 Views
Re: Skeeter, Moody and more Weasleys. - 19/08/2010 05:46:27 PM 2154 Views
Re: Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. - 19/08/2010 05:23:11 PM 2280 Views
Plotting and writing. - 19/08/2010 11:22:42 AM 2477 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 19/08/2010 05:23:37 PM 2214 Views
Any other comments, observations or revelations? *NM* - 19/08/2010 11:23:48 AM 1433 Views
There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for. - 19/08/2010 04:23:16 PM 2362 Views
Re: There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for. - 19/08/2010 05:41:04 PM 2331 Views
Vampire. Only meet one I think, in a later book. - 23/08/2010 02:51:51 PM 2661 Views
Oh yes! - 23/08/2010 02:58:03 PM 2606 Views
So. Sport and numbers. - 19/08/2010 06:35:29 PM 2200 Views
Re: So. Sport and numbers. - 19/08/2010 06:39:12 PM 2270 Views
It doesn't matter, no. - 19/08/2010 11:33:04 PM 2710 Views
Re: Any other comments, observations or revelations? - 19/08/2010 05:24:05 PM 2445 Views
Chapters 13-15: First lessons, and the arrival of the foreign guests *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:09 AM 1400 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 20/08/2010 11:51:43 AM 1416 Views
Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 01:04:01 PM 2635 Views
Re: Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 01:55:29 PM 2778 Views
Re: Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 02:04:07 PM 2852 Views
I just realised - 20/08/2010 11:51:20 PM 2582 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* - 20/08/2010 11:52:05 AM 1309 Views
Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films. - 20/08/2010 01:05:06 PM 2598 Views
Re: Yes. Five things, actually. - 20/08/2010 01:27:27 PM 2632 Views
Re: Yes. Five things, actually. - 20/08/2010 01:35:12 PM 2550 Views
Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it. - 20/08/2010 01:46:09 PM 2651 Views
Re: Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it. - 20/08/2010 01:56:53 PM 2815 Views
Oh, and one more thing... - 20/08/2010 01:57:20 PM 2629 Views
Re: Oh, and one more thing... - 20/08/2010 02:08:50 PM 2646 Views
Unforgiveable Curses and Owls - 05/09/2010 05:09:26 AM 2759 Views
Chapters 16-18: The Tri-Wizard Tournament begins *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:31 AM 1452 Views
Characters: The Champions, Hagrid, Karkarov, and of course Rita Skeeter in person *NM* - 21/08/2010 01:10:53 PM 1425 Views
Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 01:50:12 PM 2673 Views
Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 04:24:02 PM 2645 Views
Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 04:40:39 PM 2636 Views
The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. - 23/08/2010 09:20:18 PM 2612 Views
Re: The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. - 23/08/2010 09:22:26 PM 2798 Views
Definitely true - 23/08/2010 10:02:46 PM 2829 Views
Re: Definitely true - 24/08/2010 06:20:53 PM 2902 Views
Well, perhaps dues ex machina is a bit too much. - 25/08/2010 01:06:27 AM 2851 Views
Re: Well, perhaps dues ex machina is a bit too much. - 25/08/2010 06:01:32 AM 2616 Views
Plotting and writing. - 21/08/2010 01:12:24 PM 2920 Views
plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 01:39:10 PM 2656 Views
Re: plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 04:30:20 PM 2819 Views
Re: plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 04:35:22 PM 2878 Views
Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM* - 21/08/2010 01:12:53 PM 1438 Views
House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 01:35:38 PM 2930 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 04:55:10 PM 2793 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 04:59:55 PM 2899 Views
I don't know what you're talking about. - 21/08/2010 05:05:28 PM 2730 Views
Re: I don't know what you're talking about. - 21/08/2010 05:16:18 PM 2758 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 05/09/2010 05:11:11 AM 2708 Views
I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:02:47 PM 2833 Views
Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:08:40 PM 2869 Views
I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else... - 21/08/2010 05:26:17 PM 2678 Views
Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:12:54 PM 2557 Views
Hermione really comes into her own in this book. - 27/08/2010 11:30:38 PM 2465 Views
Indeed - 27/08/2010 11:46:44 PM 2885 Views
Chapters 19-21: The first task and House-Elves at Hogwarts *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:53 AM 1425 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Moody, Dobby and Winky,... - 23/08/2010 10:40:21 AM 2619 Views
The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:07:50 AM 2633 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:35:56 AM 2754 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:44:08 AM 2890 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:54:31 AM 2550 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 12:07:24 PM 2825 Views
Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 11:19:21 AM 2569 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 11:56:37 AM 2702 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 01:58:39 PM 2533 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 02:08:53 PM 2622 Views
Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM* - 23/08/2010 10:41:20 AM 1443 Views
Good plotting in this section - 23/08/2010 11:08:50 AM 2728 Views
Yeah, definitely. - 23/08/2010 11:46:46 AM 2697 Views
Re: Yeah, definitely. - 23/08/2010 12:04:55 PM 2633 Views
Anything else you want to comment on? *NM* - 23/08/2010 10:41:39 AM 1404 Views
Harry and Ron's fight is properly annoying. - 08/09/2010 04:58:59 PM 3342 Views
Chapters 22-24: The - rather eventful - Yule Ball *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:36:30 AM 1324 Views
Characters: The Trio, Champions and their dates, Karkarov, Hagrid and Olympe,... - 24/08/2010 11:09:33 AM 2789 Views
Ron and Hermione, mainly. - 24/08/2010 11:47:49 AM 2867 Views
Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 01:15:37 PM 2568 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 03:53:20 PM 2566 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 05:00:59 PM 2656 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 05:19:34 PM 2780 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 25/08/2010 12:15:12 AM 2734 Views
Fred and George. - 24/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 2686 Views
Re: Fred and George. - 24/08/2010 04:17:10 PM 2815 Views
Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM* - 24/08/2010 11:11:49 AM 1478 Views
Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 11:48:30 AM 2790 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 02:18:04 PM 2614 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 04:13:57 PM 2658 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 04:33:14 PM 2679 Views
Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM* - 24/08/2010 11:12:33 AM 1480 Views
Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius. - 24/08/2010 02:23:37 PM 2648 Views
Lasso comment? - 24/08/2010 04:20:35 PM 2676 Views
When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang. - 24/08/2010 04:27:47 PM 2653 Views
Ah. Hehe. Yes. - 24/08/2010 04:30:34 PM 2719 Views
It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator. - 24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM 2850 Views
Holy crap. - 25/08/2010 02:44:57 PM 2618 Views
Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative... - 25/08/2010 03:06:25 PM 2734 Views
Don't care, I choose to believe - 25/08/2010 03:21:37 PM 2606 Views
You may be disappointed when trying to buy one, then. - 25/08/2010 04:23:57 PM 2837 Views
Chapters 25-27: The second task and Padfoot's return - 16/08/2010 09:36:55 AM 2631 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Fleur, Sirius,... *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:18:49 AM 1370 Views
Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 25/08/2010 05:31:18 PM 2558 Views
Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 26/08/2010 10:44:34 AM 2759 Views
Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 26/08/2010 10:51:21 AM 2572 Views
Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. - 26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM 2491 Views
Re: Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. - 26/08/2010 11:21:59 AM 2647 Views
Makes more sense now. - 28/08/2010 05:00:26 AM 2592 Views
Re: Makes more sense now. - 28/08/2010 09:28:07 AM 2631 Views
Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM 1426 Views
Merpeople and the second task. - 25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM 2655 Views
And something else I never understood about the second task - 25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM 2682 Views
That's a good point, yeah... - 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM 2559 Views
Re: That's a good point, yeah... - 25/08/2010 05:39:48 PM 2600 Views
Re: Merpeople and the second task. - 25/08/2010 05:38:55 PM 2557 Views
Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. - 25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM 2657 Views
Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM 2649 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 10:09:48 AM 2873 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 04:44:16 PM 2686 Views
Other comments. *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM 1420 Views
Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM 2656 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:36:29 PM 2673 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM 2760 Views
Need a cough drop dear? - 25/08/2010 05:53:26 PM 2643 Views
Re: Need a cough drop dear? - 25/08/2010 05:55:41 PM 2646 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 26/08/2010 11:13:07 AM 2711 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 26/08/2010 11:18:42 AM 2596 Views
Second task. - 05/09/2010 05:30:01 AM 2717 Views
Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM 1361 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM 1456 Views
Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 2685 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 2650 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 2638 Views
Also - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 2713 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 1422 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 2632 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2873 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 2680 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 2622 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 2691 Views
Yes. - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 2622 Views
Everything else. *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 1426 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 2537 Views
More owl comments. - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 2656 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 2588 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 1455 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 2573 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 2542 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 2611 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 2645 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 2714 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 1430 Views
Stuff happens. - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 2598 Views
So it does. - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 2701 Views
Re: So it does. - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 2631 Views
Re: Stuff happens. - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 2718 Views
Re: Stuff happens. - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 2652 Views
Riddle Family. - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 2619 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 2750 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 2725 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 1412 Views
Naturally - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 2797 Views
Re: Naturally - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 2508 Views
Re: Naturally - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 2923 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 1399 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 1399 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 2686 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 2635 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 2969 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 1410 Views
Revelations and then some - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 2651 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 3071 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2875 Views
Re: Revelations and then some - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 2630 Views
Re: Revelations and then some - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 2749 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 1427 Views
Two questions and one other thing. - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 2764 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 2928 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 2620 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 2606 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 2722 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 2779 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 2661 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 2812 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 2782 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 2633 Views
Well. Yes. - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 2710 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 2678 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 1418 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 2910 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 2877 Views
School started and that threw me off. - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 2713 Views
Mine was school as well. - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 2769 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 2707 Views
That would be good - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 2669 Views
I like that idea. - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 2651 Views

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