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Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla Send a noteboard - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM

Mrs Weasley: it is interesting that she points out to Amos Diggory that he should not listen to Rita Skeeter. I am still not entirely happy with this part of Mrs Weasley. Something doesn't quite fit. She cannot possibly be that oblivious to her hypocrisy.

Agreed with all of that - it made her sound like a raging hypocrite and that was a bit mean. I do wonder what Amos was going to retort...


Yes. Hmmm. I have no idea.

Madame Maxime: she is upset. That fits with the theory that she has now seen the value of Hagrid and that the roles of the two are reversed.

It does, doesn't it? There's no other reason why she would be crying that I can see. It seems a tad exaggerated, but then it's not likely either of them has really had much experience in romance before...


True. There really cannot be that many of them. For previously stated reasons that we will not get into again.

Wormtail: I don't really get it. Could what the good guys would do to him really be that bad compared to what Voldemort does? I suppose it comes down to whether you would rather be in deep depression or living with an insane sadist. I am fairly sure that if he had brought Voldemort to Dumbledore once he was … portable? it would have healed a lot of problems. Of course that would raise a lot of other moral issues, so maybe not. But still. Really. The man mocks him, taunts him, brings up his worst actions, cuts him (worse: makes him cut himself) and in thanks hurls him against a tomb stone. It does not seem like the better option.

I don't know how much he really thought it through... but he really seems to be afraid to do anything for himself, always needing a protector. Even when that protector is a sadistic brute. Voldemort talking about how Wormtail deserves his pain and all, that moves from spouse abuse to real sadism, as you said. And that Avada Kedavra... Wormtail's first ever, one would assume. He doesn't seem overly bothered by it, though, being more concerned with himself (of course after he loses his hand that's kind of understandable). But by Rowling's rules, we are given to understand that that's a big line to cross. One year earlier Harry stopped Remus and Sirius from killing him, now he kills an innocent person himself.


Yes. A question about wands, though. Voldemort and Wormtail clearly use the same wand, but I cannot really see how either one can have one. It would seem that it is Voldemort's wand, because the priori incantatem, if I recall correctly, is due to the wands being related. I find it hard to imagine Voldemort lending his wand to Wormtail. And how did they find it? I cannot remember that this is ever cleared up.

But Wormtail's first murder (if that is what it is) really does happen rather unceremoniously.

We are given indications of the traumas of his childhood, but as I pointed out in an earlier post, we have been (and will be) furnished with a whole lot of counterexamples to show us that that does not excuse him.

Indeed, as you added to yesterday's discussion, we see several children with equal or even worse traumas growing up to be far better humans. In fact his trauma wasn't even that bad, really... yes, he was raised in an orphanage, but by all accounts a mostly decent one.


Hmm. Yes. You are right. The orphanage probably isn't that bad. I was thinking more about the rejection by his father, but he would not have known that in the formative years, would he?

It is strange to hear him reveal his half-blood birth so easily. I am still not sure that Lucius and his lot are aware of it. Perhaps that is why he breaks off when they arrive. Although it is clearly a very important part of his identity.

He seems to be telling Harry things he really wouldn't tell anyone else. Perhaps because on some level he considers him a kindred soul, and an equal of sorts - though one in his power - whereas all his Death Eaters are just underlings. He even makes the comparison between them himself. For all that Bellatrix flatters herself into thinking he wants her as she does him, the truth is he takes none of his underlings seriously. Snape perhaps most of all, because Snape has the courage to stand up to him to some extent (such as here - within hours of these events, iirc, Snape will visit Voldemort and manage to convince him he had a good reason for not obeying slavishly).


Yes.

Quirrel: an interesting insight into him at this point. Was he not a willing host, then? It sounds like he was acting under compulsion rather than willing allegiance.

Did we think before that it was willing allegiance? I don't remember now... but yes, doesn't seem like Quirrel had much of a choice.


Hmm. Maybe it is made clear earlier on that Quirrel was not a volunteer. I think it is said somewhere that he happened across Voldemort in Albania.
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Yeah, definitely. Legolas - 23/08/2010 11:46:46 AM 2821 Views
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Makes sense. Legolas - 24/08/2010 01:15:37 PM 2711 Views
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Re: Makes sense. Legolas - 24/08/2010 05:00:59 PM 2778 Views
Re: Makes sense. Camilla - 24/08/2010 05:19:34 PM 2890 Views
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Lasso comment? Camilla - 24/08/2010 04:20:35 PM 2807 Views
When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang. Legolas - 24/08/2010 04:27:47 PM 2771 Views
Ah. Hehe. Yes. Camilla - 24/08/2010 04:30:34 PM 2844 Views
It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator. Legolas - 24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM 2969 Views
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You may be disappointed when trying to buy one, then. Legolas - 25/08/2010 04:23:57 PM 2954 Views
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. Legolas - 26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM 2642 Views
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Makes more sense now. Seriana Sedai - 28/08/2010 05:00:26 AM 2709 Views
Re: Makes more sense now. Camilla - 28/08/2010 09:28:07 AM 2761 Views
Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM 1484 Views
Merpeople and the second task. Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM 2773 Views
And something else I never understood about the second task Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM 2802 Views
That's a good point, yeah... Legolas - 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM 2662 Views
Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 03:57:48 PM 2768 Views
Re: That's a good point, yeah... Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:39:48 PM 2713 Views
Re: Merpeople and the second task. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:38:55 PM 2678 Views
Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM 2775 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Deadsy - 25/08/2010 05:40:39 PM 2822 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:52 PM 2706 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:09:20 AM 2734 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:17:36 AM 2857 Views
Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM 2760 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:09:48 AM 2981 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:44:16 PM 2835 Views
Other comments. *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM 1489 Views
Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM 2770 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:36:29 PM 2783 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM 2873 Views
Need a cough drop dear? Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:53:26 PM 2757 Views
Re: Need a cough drop dear? Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:55:41 PM 2764 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:13:07 AM 2829 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:18:42 AM 2714 Views
Second task. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:30:01 AM 2832 Views
Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM 1426 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM 1517 Views
Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 2795 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 2769 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 2746 Views
Also Camilla - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 2831 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 1486 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 2756 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2985 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 2808 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 2737 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 2807 Views
Yes. Elaine - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 2756 Views
Everything else. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 1499 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 2646 Views
More owl comments. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 2767 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 2731 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 1505 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 2703 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 2674 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 2735 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 2781 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 2826 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 1499 Views
Stuff happens. Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 2731 Views
So it does. Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 2830 Views
Re: So it does. Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 2763 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 2822 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 2768 Views
Riddle Family. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 2749 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... Legolas - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 2882 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 2834 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 1476 Views
Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 2911 Views
Re: Naturally Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 2615 Views
Re: Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 3038 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 1465 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 1465 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 2826 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 2764 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 3093 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 1474 Views
Revelations and then some Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 2765 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Dark Knight - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 3199 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2987 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 2762 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 2891 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 1486 Views
Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 2889 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 3035 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 2737 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 2731 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 2825 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 2900 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 2779 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 2941 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 2898 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? StormCrow - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 2744 Views
Well. Yes. Rebekah - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 2825 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! aria - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 2806 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* StormCrow - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 1477 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 3031 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 3006 Views
School started and that threw me off. aria - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 2840 Views
Mine was school as well. Seriana Sedai - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 2891 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. Cockatiel of Doom - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 2820 Views
That would be good Camilla - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 2790 Views
I like that idea. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 2761 Views
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