Dress robes. Poor Ron.
And the possibility of only putting one body part through the floo network.
And mention of Moody's new job.
Mad-Eye Moody's night of attacking dustbins is of course him being attacked and locked in the chest. I like how Rowling buries that event in character drawing.That is the best plotting in this section, I think. The others are just indications of what is to come.
Like Charlie's hint that he will see them all soon. Or Draco's talk of entering.
Of course this gleeful anticipation makes it seem like the challenges and mysteries at Hogwarts this year will be a good experience. Which is wildly misguiding. And I suppose that is good.
Oh, and Durmstrang is introduced, as Legolas said it would be. And framed in the Dark Arts comments from Draco. We are set up to think Karkaroff might be the bad guy. I think that is part of the problem of this book. It sets up too many red herrings. It gets confused.
More recap. I was annoyed by the whole scene with Peeves and McGonnagall (short as it was) because it was clearly there only to introduce the character, when we know them already. It is followed by another recap. This is chapter 12. I hatehatehate the recaps. There. Done. No, really.
Also, Harry's Cho obsession continues.
And Moody is drinking from his hip flask.
We also get a resolution to the main enigma of the preceding chapters. All that nudging and winking: The Triwizard Tournament.
Everyone keeps saying there may be deaths, and we don't believe it. Well, we do, because we have read the books before. But I didn't when I read it the first time, and I don't when I read now, until I remember.
*MySmiley*
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Four Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
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Chapters 1-3: A different beginning
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Early characters
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Early plotting.
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It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books)
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Re: Early plotting.
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Any other comments/observations
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Mob mentality and British euroscepticism.
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people in groups and baffling violence. And the godawful recaps
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Yeah, I agree about the recaps, they're pointless at this point. *NM*
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Good news! HP really caught on after this book and so the last books don't have a recap! *NM*
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Chapters 4-6 - The Weasleys
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Characters - a few new ones
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Also on the topic of Amos' talk of Cedric and Harry... (spoilers for end of book)
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Oh, I can think of a few more things that will prove relevant. But that's for tomorrow.
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And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning...
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Plotting - anything of note?
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The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying...
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I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM*
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Any other comments/observations.
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Chapters 7-9 - The Quidditch World Cup and Death Eaters
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Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people.
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Plotting
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Other stuff.
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Krum Catching the Snitch
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It makes a certain amount of sense, I think...
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Clothes and other schools
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There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine.
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Chapters 10-12: Back to Hogwarts and the Tri-Wizard Tournament. *NM*
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Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. *NM*
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Plotting and writing.
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Re: Plotting and writing.
- 19/08/2010 05:23:37 PM
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Any other comments, observations or revelations? *NM*
- 19/08/2010 11:23:48 AM
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There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for.
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Chapters 13-15: First lessons, and the arrival of the foreign guests *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, Neville, Moody, first impressions of Karkarov and Maxime *NM*
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Hagrid, Rita, Moody, Neville, Harry, Hedwig, Cedric, McGonnagall, Hermione and Madamme Maxime
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that).
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Anything else to add? *NM*
- 20/08/2010 11:52:05 AM
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Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films.
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Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it.
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Chapters 16-18: The Tri-Wizard Tournament begins *NM*
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Characters: The Champions, Hagrid, Karkarov, and of course Rita Skeeter in person *NM*
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Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita
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Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita
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Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita
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Oh, you're right, it is then. I thought you meant she said it to Harry.
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The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series.
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Definitely true
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Plotting and writing.
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plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole
- 21/08/2010 01:39:10 PM
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Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM*
- 21/08/2010 01:12:53 PM
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House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter.
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I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else...
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Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing.
- 21/08/2010 05:12:54 PM
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No, no, the pudding and the bouillabaisse are two different things.
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Hermione really comes into her own in this book.
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Agreed, but spending really all her time with those two boys does make it easier...
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Chapters 19-21: The first task and House-Elves at Hogwarts *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Moody, Dobby and Winky,...
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The trio, Neville and the House-elves.
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Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves.
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Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts.
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Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM*
- 23/08/2010 10:41:20 AM
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Good plotting in this section
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Anything else you want to comment on? *NM*
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I love that there is a book called Men Who Love Dragons Too Much. *NM*
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Chapters 22-24: The - rather eventful - Yule Ball *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, Champions and their dates, Karkarov, Hagrid and Olympe,...
- 24/08/2010 11:09:33 AM
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Ron and Hermione, mainly.
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Makes sense.
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Re: Makes sense.
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Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM*
- 24/08/2010 11:11:49 AM
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Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath
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Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM*
- 24/08/2010 11:12:33 AM
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Gender roles, Dobby, national stereotypes, creepy magic and gobbledegook.
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Re: Gender roles, Dobby, national stereotypes, creepy magic and gobbledegook.
- 24/08/2010 04:15:15 PM
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Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius.
- 24/08/2010 02:23:37 PM
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Lasso comment?
- 24/08/2010 04:20:35 PM
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When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang.
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Ah. Hehe. Yes.
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It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator.
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Holy crap.
- 25/08/2010 02:44:57 PM
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Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative...
- 25/08/2010 03:06:25 PM
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Chapters 25-27: The second task and Padfoot's return
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Characters: The Trio, Krum, Fleur, Sirius,... *NM*
- 25/08/2010 11:18:49 AM
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Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius.
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I'm a bit worried about people's reactions to Snape during these discussions
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Agreed. Snape is one of the most fascinating characters I have ever read
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight.
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Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM*
- 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM
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Merpeople and the second task.
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And something else I never understood about the second task
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That's a good point, yeah...
- 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM
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Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol
- 25/08/2010 03:57:48 PM
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Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
- 26/08/2010 11:17:36 AM
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Marauder's Map.
- 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM
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Other comments. *NM*
- 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM
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Two completely unrelated things.
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Re: Two completely unrelated things.
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Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM*
- 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM
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Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville
- 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM
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Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM*
- 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM
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Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues.
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Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues.
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Chapters 31-33: The third task
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Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM*
- 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM
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Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel
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Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM*
- 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM
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Stuff happens.
- 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM
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Riddle Family.
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Anything else to add? *NM*
- 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM
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Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM*
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Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM*
- 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM
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Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione
- 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM
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Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM*
- 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM
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Revelations and then some
- 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM
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Any other thoughts? *NM*
- 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM
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Two questions and one other thing.
- 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM
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The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations
- 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM
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What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book?
- 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM
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I think she has more room to display her talent in this book.
- 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM
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Suggestions for the re-read.
- 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM
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Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing?
- 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM
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When should we start the next book? And at which pace?
- 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM
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