Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/08/2010 10:44:34 AM
Snape: I felt a little sorry for him during the midnight encounter with Moody. I like his confidence that Dumbledore trusts him. I am not such a fan of how he whispers menacingly to Harry while the latter is chopping his vegetables and crushing things -- as an adult man he should be above taunting and threatening a kid. But still. I like Snape. Oddly.
Dark Knight has a point, but yes, I get what you mean.
Percy: he had been worried about Ron during the task (at least that is how I understand his pallor). I like to see that. I had forgotten it, and Percy being affectionate is a rare sight. He also keeps fussing over Ron once he is out of the water.
Agreed. I had forgotten it too, it was interesting because it shows he certainly hasn't turned his back on his family yet here.
Hermione: ignores Krum after the task, angry when Fleur kisses Ron. Oh yes.
Whereas Krum is jealous that Hermione cares more about Ron and Harry than about him. Really kind of awkward, the way three of the four hostages were people Harry cared a lot about.
And convenient indeed. Though of course in the end the one he saves besides Ron is the only one he doesn't know - otherwise it wouldn't be heroic enough, I guess? Ron: his tendency to embellish stories shows up again. Issues, issues...
Yeah, it was pretty bad... surely people can't actually believe that nonsense he tells, when the true version has to go from mouth to mouth fairly fast. Weird.
And his very insistent insistence that he would like to know what Hermione replied to Krum's kind offer to have her visit him. Cute, in a way.
Indeed.
Mrs Weasley: I had forgotten that the place where she gets the story of Harry and Hermione's breakup is in fact Witch Weekly. I had thought it was the Prophet. This makes more sense.
Me too, I didn't realize Skeeter wrote for other media too. Makes sense though, I suppose.
Sirius: It is interesting that he says (and in connection with house-elves no less) ``If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals''. Of course Sirius' treatment of Kreecher says a lot about him -- but mainly it is about his serious issues with his family. I don't think he is one to mistreat house-elves in general.
Agreed, but it's funny that Sirius should say that, all the same. He must have changed a lot either in the years after Hogwarts, or during his time in Azkaban. Because the Sirius we see in the Pensieve and all isn't exactly treating his inferiors (i.e. Peter) all that well.
It's clearly a point Rowling believes in strongly, though. Abuse of power and treating inferiors harshly are characteristics that you find in nearly all of her villains (including, of course, Snape).
The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Four Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
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Early characters
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Early plotting.
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It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books)
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Re: Early plotting.
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Any other comments/observations
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Mob mentality and British euroscepticism.
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people in groups and baffling violence. And the godawful recaps
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Yeah, I agree about the recaps, they're pointless at this point. *NM*
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Good news! HP really caught on after this book and so the last books don't have a recap! *NM*
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Chapters 4-6 - The Weasleys
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Characters - a few new ones
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Also on the topic of Amos' talk of Cedric and Harry... (spoilers for end of book)
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Oh, I can think of a few more things that will prove relevant. But that's for tomorrow.
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And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning...
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Plotting - anything of note?
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The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying...
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I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM*
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Any other comments/observations.
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Chapters 7-9 - The Quidditch World Cup and Death Eaters
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Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people.
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Plotting
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Other stuff.
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Krum Catching the Snitch
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It makes a certain amount of sense, I think...
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Clothes and other schools
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There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine.
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Chapters 10-12: Back to Hogwarts and the Tri-Wizard Tournament. *NM*
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Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. *NM*
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Any other comments, observations or revelations? *NM*
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There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for.
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Chapters 13-15: First lessons, and the arrival of the foreign guests *NM*
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Re: Hagrid, Rita, Moody, Neville, Harry, Hedwig, Cedric, McGonnagall, Hermione and Madamme Maxime
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that).
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Anything else to add? *NM*
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Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films.
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Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it.
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Chapters 16-18: The Tri-Wizard Tournament begins *NM*
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Characters: The Champions, Hagrid, Karkarov, and of course Rita Skeeter in person *NM*
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Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita
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Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita
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Oh, you're right, it is then. I thought you meant she said it to Harry.
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The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series.
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Definitely true
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Plotting and writing.
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plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole
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Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM*
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House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter.
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I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else...
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Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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No, no, the pudding and the bouillabaisse are two different things.
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Hermione really comes into her own in this book.
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Agreed, but spending really all her time with those two boys does make it easier...
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Chapters 19-21: The first task and House-Elves at Hogwarts *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Moody, Dobby and Winky,...
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The trio, Neville and the House-elves.
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Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts.
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Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM*
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Good plotting in this section
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Anything else you want to comment on? *NM*
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I love that there is a book called Men Who Love Dragons Too Much. *NM*
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Chapters 22-24: The - rather eventful - Yule Ball *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, Champions and their dates, Karkarov, Hagrid and Olympe,...
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Ron and Hermione, mainly.
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Makes sense.
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Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM*
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Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath
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Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM*
- 24/08/2010 11:12:33 AM
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Gender roles, Dobby, national stereotypes, creepy magic and gobbledegook.
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Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius.
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Lasso comment?
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When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang.
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Ah. Hehe. Yes.
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It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator.
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Holy crap.
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Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative...
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Chapters 25-27: The second task and Padfoot's return
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Characters: The Trio, Krum, Fleur, Sirius,... *NM*
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Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius.
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I'm a bit worried about people's reactions to Snape during these discussions
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Agreed. Snape is one of the most fascinating characters I have ever read
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Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius.
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight.
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Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM*
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Merpeople and the second task.
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And something else I never understood about the second task
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That's a good point, yeah...
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Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol
- 25/08/2010 03:57:48 PM
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Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Marauder's Map.
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Other comments. *NM*
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Two completely unrelated things.
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Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM*
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Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville
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Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM*
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Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues.
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Chapters 31-33: The third task
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Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM*
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Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel
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Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM*
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Stuff happens.
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Riddle Family.
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Anything else to add? *NM*
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Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM*
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Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM*
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Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione
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Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM*
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Revelations and then some
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Any other thoughts? *NM*
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Two questions and one other thing.
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The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations
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What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book?
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I think she has more room to display her talent in this book.
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Suggestions for the re-read.
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Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing?
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When should we start the next book? And at which pace?
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