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Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla Send a noteboard - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM

Mrs Weasley: it is interesting that she points out to Amos Diggory that he should not listen to Rita Skeeter. I am still not entirely happy with this part of Mrs Weasley. Something doesn't quite fit. She cannot possibly be that oblivious to her hypocrisy.

Agreed with all of that - it made her sound like a raging hypocrite and that was a bit mean. I do wonder what Amos was going to retort...


Yes. Hmmm. I have no idea.

Madame Maxime: she is upset. That fits with the theory that she has now seen the value of Hagrid and that the roles of the two are reversed.

It does, doesn't it? There's no other reason why she would be crying that I can see. It seems a tad exaggerated, but then it's not likely either of them has really had much experience in romance before...


True. There really cannot be that many of them. For previously stated reasons that we will not get into again.

Wormtail: I don't really get it. Could what the good guys would do to him really be that bad compared to what Voldemort does? I suppose it comes down to whether you would rather be in deep depression or living with an insane sadist. I am fairly sure that if he had brought Voldemort to Dumbledore once he was … portable? it would have healed a lot of problems. Of course that would raise a lot of other moral issues, so maybe not. But still. Really. The man mocks him, taunts him, brings up his worst actions, cuts him (worse: makes him cut himself) and in thanks hurls him against a tomb stone. It does not seem like the better option.

I don't know how much he really thought it through... but he really seems to be afraid to do anything for himself, always needing a protector. Even when that protector is a sadistic brute. Voldemort talking about how Wormtail deserves his pain and all, that moves from spouse abuse to real sadism, as you said. And that Avada Kedavra... Wormtail's first ever, one would assume. He doesn't seem overly bothered by it, though, being more concerned with himself (of course after he loses his hand that's kind of understandable). But by Rowling's rules, we are given to understand that that's a big line to cross. One year earlier Harry stopped Remus and Sirius from killing him, now he kills an innocent person himself.


Yes. A question about wands, though. Voldemort and Wormtail clearly use the same wand, but I cannot really see how either one can have one. It would seem that it is Voldemort's wand, because the priori incantatem, if I recall correctly, is due to the wands being related. I find it hard to imagine Voldemort lending his wand to Wormtail. And how did they find it? I cannot remember that this is ever cleared up.

But Wormtail's first murder (if that is what it is) really does happen rather unceremoniously.

We are given indications of the traumas of his childhood, but as I pointed out in an earlier post, we have been (and will be) furnished with a whole lot of counterexamples to show us that that does not excuse him.

Indeed, as you added to yesterday's discussion, we see several children with equal or even worse traumas growing up to be far better humans. In fact his trauma wasn't even that bad, really... yes, he was raised in an orphanage, but by all accounts a mostly decent one.


Hmm. Yes. You are right. The orphanage probably isn't that bad. I was thinking more about the rejection by his father, but he would not have known that in the formative years, would he?

It is strange to hear him reveal his half-blood birth so easily. I am still not sure that Lucius and his lot are aware of it. Perhaps that is why he breaks off when they arrive. Although it is clearly a very important part of his identity.

He seems to be telling Harry things he really wouldn't tell anyone else. Perhaps because on some level he considers him a kindred soul, and an equal of sorts - though one in his power - whereas all his Death Eaters are just underlings. He even makes the comparison between them himself. For all that Bellatrix flatters herself into thinking he wants her as she does him, the truth is he takes none of his underlings seriously. Snape perhaps most of all, because Snape has the courage to stand up to him to some extent (such as here - within hours of these events, iirc, Snape will visit Voldemort and manage to convince him he had a good reason for not obeying slavishly).


Yes.

Quirrel: an interesting insight into him at this point. Was he not a willing host, then? It sounds like he was acting under compulsion rather than willing allegiance.

Did we think before that it was willing allegiance? I don't remember now... but yes, doesn't seem like Quirrel had much of a choice.


Hmm. Maybe it is made clear earlier on that Quirrel was not a volunteer. I think it is said somewhere that he happened across Voldemort in Albania.
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Yeah, definitely. Legolas - 23/08/2010 11:46:46 AM 2696 Views
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It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator. Legolas - 24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM 2849 Views
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. Legolas - 26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM 2491 Views
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Makes more sense now. Seriana Sedai - 28/08/2010 05:00:26 AM 2591 Views
Re: Makes more sense now. Camilla - 28/08/2010 09:28:07 AM 2630 Views
Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM 1425 Views
Merpeople and the second task. Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM 2655 Views
And something else I never understood about the second task Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM 2681 Views
That's a good point, yeah... Legolas - 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM 2558 Views
Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 03:57:48 PM 2650 Views
Re: That's a good point, yeah... Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:39:48 PM 2599 Views
Re: Merpeople and the second task. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:38:55 PM 2556 Views
Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM 2656 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Deadsy - 25/08/2010 05:40:39 PM 2708 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:52 PM 2593 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:09:20 AM 2603 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:17:36 AM 2740 Views
Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM 2648 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:09:48 AM 2872 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:44:16 PM 2685 Views
Other comments. *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM 1419 Views
Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM 2655 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:36:29 PM 2672 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM 2759 Views
Need a cough drop dear? Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:53:26 PM 2642 Views
Re: Need a cough drop dear? Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:55:41 PM 2645 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:13:07 AM 2710 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:18:42 AM 2596 Views
Second task. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:30:01 AM 2717 Views
Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM 1361 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM 1455 Views
Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 2685 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 2649 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 2637 Views
Also Camilla - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 2712 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 1421 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 2631 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2872 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 2679 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 2621 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 2690 Views
Yes. Elaine - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 2622 Views
Everything else. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 1426 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 2536 Views
More owl comments. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 2656 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 2588 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 1455 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 2572 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 2541 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 2611 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 2644 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 2713 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 1430 Views
Stuff happens. Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 2598 Views
So it does. Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 2700 Views
Re: So it does. Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 2631 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 2718 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 2652 Views
Riddle Family. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 2618 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... Legolas - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 2749 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 2725 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 1412 Views
Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 2796 Views
Re: Naturally Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 2508 Views
Re: Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 2923 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 1399 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 1398 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 2686 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 2635 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 2968 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 1409 Views
Revelations and then some Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 2650 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Dark Knight - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 3070 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2874 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 2629 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 2749 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 1427 Views
Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 2763 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 2927 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 2620 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 2606 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 2722 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 2779 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 2660 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 2811 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 2781 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? StormCrow - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 2633 Views
Well. Yes. Rebekah - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 2709 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! aria - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 2678 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* StormCrow - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 1417 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 2909 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 2877 Views
School started and that threw me off. aria - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 2712 Views
Mine was school as well. Seriana Sedai - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 2768 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. Cockatiel of Doom - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 2706 Views
That would be good Camilla - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 2668 Views
I like that idea. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 2650 Views
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