He shouldn't be doing this to us yet he is
Martin's argument would be that if he had kept the release date promise and released the book in 2006/07, it would not have been very good, and he took the decision to go back on his promise to make the book a lot stronger, rewriting about 98% of it from scratch. Fair enough, his PR and communication about that sucked donkey balls and he should be criticised for that (and has been, at tedious length), but the artistic decision seems valid.
Of course, if ADWD comes out and it's rubbish, or if somehow an earlier draft from three or four years ago leaks out and turns out to have been really good, that's another issue, since GRRM will have been proven wrong. But at the moment we simply don't know if that decision will have been vindicated or not. Certainly if ADWD had been released in 2007 and was as weak or even weaker than AFFC, people would now be very angry about that instead, so it appears to be a no-win scenario.
and for that, he will lost a good deal of his audience because they'll stop caring. I still want to find out what happens so I'll buy the books. It's the people who stop complaining and move on who will not support him. If he keeps this up much longer, he'll have a fan base half the size of what it was.
This has never happened to any major fantasy author, though, not even when the wait massively eclipses ADWD's. In SF, maybe David Gerrold who's coming up on 20 years between books in his CHTORR series has suffered this, but that series was nowhere near as massive as any of these fantasy ones and most people have now forgotten it existed. Melanie Rawn, whose sales are extremely modest by Martin's standards (and GRRM is not amongst the biggest-selling fantasy authors overall, though his per-book sales are impressive), is still getting a lot of flak over her CAPITAL'S TOWER series (12 years between volumes and counting) and the final book, when it appears, will likely be a huge seller.
Maybe GRRM will be the first author to see this kind of sales backlash, but the history of the genre and the forthcoming massive boost in sales that will result from the TV series (even if the TV show's success is relatively limited) make it extremely unlikely.
Because George R.R. Martin does everything but write these days...
- 22/09/2010 04:15:04 AM
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I don't hate him. But, like you, I'm fed up with him.
- 22/09/2010 04:47:31 AM
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I'm pretty much in the same camp as you and Tom.
- 22/09/2010 06:17:53 AM
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I'm beginning to agree.
- 22/09/2010 09:55:07 AM
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Not only is he a writer, but he has really only one successful series.
- 23/09/2010 03:40:30 AM
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I said I'm "growing" to hate him. I'm not ready to pay for his death yet.
- 23/09/2010 03:37:53 AM
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I was thinking the same things a couple days ago
- 22/09/2010 02:22:49 PM
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If I was an author I wouldn't defend him.
- 22/09/2010 03:35:17 PM
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I agree but emphatically endorse use of the subjunctive "were".
- 23/09/2010 03:31:25 AM
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If I were to be grammatically correct, the world would stop spinning.
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- 23/09/2010 02:27:00 PM
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- 23/09/2010 02:27:00 PM
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I stopped caring so long ago I don't even remember much of what it's about. *NM*
- 22/09/2010 04:21:52 PM
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Wolves and incest and a big wall of ice with barrow-wights on the other side. *NM*
- 23/09/2010 03:36:19 AM
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You know whenever the new book is ever released, it'll sell even more copies due to the wait, right?
- 22/09/2010 11:06:37 PM
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There's a huge difference between Song of Ice and Fire and Miller's Leibowitz.
- 23/09/2010 03:28:31 AM
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Not neccessarily. There are plenty of series that I started but didn't finish because I lost
- 24/09/2010 12:58:10 AM
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Don't mistake yourself for the average consumer
- 24/09/2010 04:03:57 AM
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Re: Don't mistake yourself for the average consumer
- 24/09/2010 08:55:29 AM
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which is why I always rant - why review a book on your blog, but not Amazon?
- 25/09/2010 03:36:45 PM
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Where's your evidence that Neil Gaiman thinks he's God?
- 23/09/2010 01:31:03 PM
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Re: Nothing wrong with him if does have a high opinion of himself. *NM*
- 26/09/2010 12:11:06 AM
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I'm always amused by these threads.
- 24/09/2010 08:22:54 AM
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Re: I'm always amused by these threads.
- 24/09/2010 02:42:27 PM
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Truly, there's really no reason that you can't be both angry at him and planning to buy the book.
- 25/09/2010 12:46:03 AM
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Re: I'm always amused by these threads.
- 25/09/2010 05:04:56 PM
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Re: Because George R.R. Martin does everything but write these days...
- 02/10/2010 02:57:29 AM
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