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Re: Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Camilla Send a noteboard - 30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM
I will not be reading Dutch poetry in Dutch, thank you very much. Prose I might handle. Not potery.

Aw. I was going to show you my favourite Hooft sonnet, but... yeah. It might be a bit hard, and the antiquated and inconsistent spelling won't help.

I'll post it anyway for anyone who wants to see what they can make of it:

Geswinde grijsaert die op wackre wiecken staech,

De dunne lucht doorsnijt, en sonder seil te strijcken,

Altijdt vaert voor de windt, en ijder nae laet kijcken,

Doodtvyandt van de rust, die woelt bij nacht bij daech;

Onachterhaelbre Tijdt, wiens heten honger graech

Verslockt, verslint, verteert al watter sterck mach lijcken

En keert, en wendt, en stort Staeten en Coninckrijcken;

Voor ijder een te snel, hoe valtdij mij soo traech?

Mijn lief sint ick u mis, verdrijve' jck met mishaeghen

De schoorvoetighe Tijdt, en tob de lange daeghen

Met arbeidt avontwaerts; uw afzijn valt te bang.

En mijn verlangen can den Tijdtgod niet beweghen.

Maer 't schijnt verlangen daer sijn naem af heeft gecreghen,

Dat jck den Tijdt, die jck vercorten wil, verlang.

If you want to start easy on Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities or The Mystery of Edwin Drood might be good. Little Dorrit and Bleak House (paradoxically) are both quite happy in the end. For some. Not all.

I've heard good things from others as well about Tale of Two Cities. I might try that.


It is less "Dickensian" than his other books, I'd say. And a little more ... what's the word? It is simpler and more romance-tinted. Perhaps because of the historical "colour".
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Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:23:51 PM 1218 Views
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They are much, much worse than powder soup. Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:07 PM 1046 Views
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It's cool. StormCrow - 06/10/2010 04:42:13 PM 1283 Views
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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 10:57:23 PM 1167 Views
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Camilla, that's just because you're an atheist. Tom - 01/10/2010 09:37:34 PM 1053 Views
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It is good. *NM* Camilla - 30/09/2010 09:34:47 PM 479 Views
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I study them, apparently. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM 1241 Views
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Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM 1231 Views
I knew you would have a rather lengthy list. I was worried until the edit came through. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:26:34 AM 1237 Views
Good survey. Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:23:18 PM 1219 Views
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Maybe I was unclear. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:55:22 PM 1134 Views
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I'm glad you approve on the whole. Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM 1208 Views
I generally do. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM 1135 Views
Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1300 Views
Re: Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM 1146 Views
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Oh, and link to the Flecker poem: Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:42:30 PM 1022 Views
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