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Good point about the "Ridiculous Things", that bugged me too. Legolas Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 10:35:32 PM

But then I'll add that I simply have a hard time suspending disbelief while reading his books, because there are so many Ridiculous Things that happen. And I'm not even talking about the Great and Terrible Mysteries that are revealed at the end - I'm talking about things like being able to drive through the packed streets of Rome and get to any point in the city in under fifteen minutes, no matter what. Or college classes full of kids who say "NO WAY!!" when presented with some mildly clever interpretation of symbology. The little stuff like that.


But in fairness, that's no different from your average Hollywood movie either.
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Why is it that so many people hate Dan Brown? Tom - 14/09/2009 09:24:31 PM 2435 Views
His prose is bad. Very bad. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:28:28 PM 1297 Views
It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact. Tom - 14/09/2009 09:30:17 PM 1170 Views
Re: It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact. Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:32:44 PM 1323 Views
In defense of italics... smaug - 14/09/2009 11:58:35 PM 1247 Views
Re: In defense of italics... Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:02:56 AM 1260 Views
I just rechecked... smaug - 15/09/2009 11:17:23 AM 1166 Views
Thereby... Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:31:44 PM 1192 Views
I have a problem with comparing those italics. Rebekah - 15/09/2009 10:33:53 PM 1199 Views
Oh probably Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:40:15 PM 1197 Views
Hehe Rebekah - 15/09/2009 10:42:23 PM 1286 Views
In defense of nothing in particular... smaug - 15/09/2009 11:16:09 PM 1269 Views
Ah. Leroux did publish it as a serial in magazine first so that makes sense. *NM* Rebekah - 15/09/2009 11:19:40 PM 571 Views
Re: Thereby... Camilla - 16/09/2009 10:40:18 AM 1336 Views
I love that line, and nothing you say will change that. Legolas - 15/09/2009 11:15:29 PM 1182 Views
That line is great smaug - 15/09/2009 11:21:03 PM 1214 Views
Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD Tom - 15/09/2009 04:46:06 AM 1179 Views
Wow, the vehemence. Craig - 15/09/2009 05:55:38 AM 1243 Views
Riddle me this, Batman - if he weren't dying, would he have even done that? *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 01:53:57 PM 675 Views
Yes. Werthead - 15/09/2009 03:38:34 PM 1180 Views
burn *NM* LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:24:49 PM 553 Views
Relevant post as always Celia *NM* Walker_Boh - 15/09/2009 11:36:34 PM 633 Views
So you say... Tom - 16/09/2009 02:17:47 AM 1168 Views
No, he didn't. Werthead - 16/09/2009 04:44:31 AM 1240 Views
Re: Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:05:26 AM 1193 Views
His attitude to history isn't really any different from that of most writers Tom - 15/09/2009 01:54:55 PM 1182 Views
Except Camilla - 15/09/2009 04:56:23 PM 1185 Views
And ALSO except Tom - 17/09/2009 02:59:03 PM 1283 Views
Re: And ALSO except Camilla - 17/09/2009 05:27:40 PM 1181 Views
I vehemently disagree with this! Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:33:05 PM 1455 Views
How many chapters of Aes Sedai dresses and horse names did we go through in his books? Tom - 15/09/2009 04:45:04 AM 1224 Views
I'd have a slow moving plot to fast moving nonsense any day. fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 05:36:20 AM 1286 Views
With Jordan, that movement was glacial Tom - 15/09/2009 01:58:08 PM 1164 Views
so...your problem with jordan is that you're impatient? LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:26:07 PM 1122 Views
How many of us can say we're not antsy to know what happened? nossy - 15/09/2009 05:03:24 PM 1177 Views
So plot progression is all that matters? What about the other stuff I mentioned? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/09/2009 04:50:06 PM 565 Views
Jordan's characters are just as two-dimensional as Brown's Tom - 16/09/2009 02:17:19 AM 1142 Views
Bull... fionwe1987 - 16/09/2009 03:15:49 AM 1162 Views
No, I think you're just blinded by liking WoT Tom - 17/09/2009 03:00:28 PM 1145 Views
No, you seem to be blinded by disliking him, more like. Legolas - 17/09/2009 06:25:21 PM 1151 Views
It's not hyperbole. Tom - 17/09/2009 08:13:47 PM 1171 Views
Yes, it is, and you're really going to have to back your stance up with arguments. Legolas - 17/09/2009 09:21:56 PM 1204 Views
No it isn't, and I won't. I'm bored with this debate. *NM* Tom - 18/09/2009 02:57:00 PM 597 Views
Yeah like that's not the case with you and Dan Brown. fionwe1987 - 17/09/2009 06:56:37 PM 1218 Views
I don't think Dan Brown is a stellar writer. Tom - 17/09/2009 08:11:41 PM 1176 Views
Heh. It was "favourite" fantasy series not "best". Rebekah - 17/09/2009 08:19:02 PM 1144 Views
Then why defend him? fionwe1987 - 18/09/2009 12:14:35 AM 1130 Views
No Camilla - 18/09/2009 10:09:02 AM 1291 Views
Examples. Werthead - 17/09/2009 01:53:21 AM 1376 Views
LOL Rebekah - 17/09/2009 03:16:23 PM 1211 Views
Because he is shit? Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:38:59 PM 1436 Views
Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:43:24 AM 1207 Views
Re: Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it. Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:04:18 AM 1165 Views
Yes, I was talking about the book. Tom - 15/09/2009 01:58:54 PM 1150 Views
Re: Yes, I was talking about the book. Camilla - 15/09/2009 04:56:53 PM 1100 Views
Also Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:41:25 PM 1223 Views
Hate is a strong word. PhotoJim - 14/09/2009 09:44:02 PM 1279 Views
Nicely put. *NM* Rebekah - 14/09/2009 09:46:03 PM 574 Views
*NM* Tashmere - 15/09/2009 04:16:35 AM 591 Views
He still didn't dick around with us as long as Robert Jordan did. *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 04:41:01 AM 603 Views
I'm not disagreeing with you on that one. *NM* PhotoJim - 15/09/2009 12:12:52 PM 632 Views
Elitism and frustration he sells so much and better authors don't? Legolas - 14/09/2009 09:51:39 PM 1123 Views
I think so. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:40:20 AM 1204 Views
you thought meyers was entertaining???? LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:28:48 PM 1143 Views
You thought it wasn't entertaining? Darth_Katie - 15/09/2009 07:42:06 PM 1135 Views
I would phrase that 'better' authors Wibble - 15/09/2009 10:29:54 PM 1146 Views
Okay, fair enough. Legolas - 15/09/2009 11:16:56 PM 1110 Views
Given that I know nothing about Dan Brown nossy - 14/09/2009 09:54:15 PM 1260 Views
Pfft! ~locks your reply~ Rebekah - 14/09/2009 10:00:23 PM 1161 Views
ooo, lock me baby! nossy - 14/09/2009 10:12:48 PM 1232 Views
A couple of the above points, and Suspension of Disbelief. Craig - 14/09/2009 10:23:26 PM 1236 Views
Good point about the "Ridiculous Things", that bugged me too. Legolas - 14/09/2009 10:35:32 PM 1278 Views
there is a difference between a book, which is a respectable medium, and a hollywood movie. jh - 14/09/2009 10:41:06 PM 1153 Views
There is really only a difference if you're looking for some higher learnin' nossy - 14/09/2009 10:52:39 PM 1225 Views
That statement makes no sense. *NM* jh - 14/09/2009 10:55:53 PM 494 Views
She must have been reading too much Dan Brown. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 10:58:51 PM 1138 Views
Yes it does nossy - 14/09/2009 11:00:41 PM 1127 Views
Only to the strangest of elitists. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 12:49:53 AM 618 Views
Go read screenplays for fun, populist. *NM* jh - 15/09/2009 10:20:01 AM 620 Views
Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 06:25:26 PM 1160 Views
Oh, I am sorry. jh - 16/09/2009 11:11:07 AM 1047 Views
Well... Craig - 14/09/2009 11:16:00 PM 1134 Views
I accept your points, but also your final statement Tom - 15/09/2009 04:38:46 AM 1127 Views
More to the point then... people don't really need a good reason to hate something in particular. Craig - 15/09/2009 06:00:33 AM 1204 Views
You didn't even like him as Mugatu in Zoolander? *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 01:47:57 PM 573 Views
Now, now. Craig - 15/09/2009 07:03:48 PM 1133 Views
Suspension of disbelief is a relative thing random thoughts - 15/09/2009 11:25:32 PM 1214 Views
Damn near everything is a relative thing. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:25:48 AM 1180 Views
I'm indifferent to him Larry - 15/09/2009 01:14:37 AM 1183 Views
If you're indifferent, you are apparently in a minority. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:36:28 AM 1144 Views
To put Brown's mediocrity in perspective, read Da Vinci and then Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco. *NM* RandAllThor - 15/09/2009 01:32:11 AM 599 Views
Eh, I enjoyed DaVinci better. You can all crucify me now. Craig - 15/09/2009 01:49:28 AM 1118 Views
Re: Eh, I enjoyed DaVinci better. You can all crucify me now. RandAllThor - 15/09/2009 01:54:17 AM 1271 Views
Re: Rose Craig - 15/09/2009 02:16:53 AM 1137 Views
As someone who appreciated Foucault's Pendulum I don't argue his mediocrity. Tom - 15/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 1021 Views
I agree with your last sentence strongly. Joker - 26/09/2009 08:18:42 PM 1367 Views
I don't hate him, and I've never read any of his books Brian - 15/09/2009 01:45:37 AM 1137 Views
He was over hyped to me. Tashmere - 15/09/2009 04:15:32 AM 1161 Views
Da Vinci, not "Da Vinchi". The latter would be pronounced like "Da Vinki" in English. *NM* Tom - 15/09/2009 04:32:40 AM 573 Views
I will fix it for for you. I just didn't care enough to look up the spelling on it. Tashmere - 15/09/2009 02:49:08 PM 1245 Views
I agree it was way overhyped. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:12:39 AM 1082 Views
Heh, I actually had the opposite. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:26:55 AM 1177 Views
The thing I hate the most is actually the fans who suddenly "know" stuff.... Sophy - 15/09/2009 07:49:22 AM 1299 Views
Yes! *NM* Camilla - 15/09/2009 08:06:35 AM 571 Views
I try to avoid stupid people like that altogether Tom - 15/09/2009 01:49:53 PM 1082 Views
And move to a deserted island? Sophy - 15/09/2009 02:33:01 PM 1370 Views
Those people are everywhere, but you don't have to talk to them Tom - 17/09/2009 03:02:24 PM 1218 Views
Lol. I agree wholeheartedly. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:17:51 AM 1207 Views
My take on why Dan Brown is so disliked. MightyYT - 15/09/2009 08:51:04 AM 1256 Views
As I've said before, I don't disagree that he's a mediocre writer Tom - 15/09/2009 01:52:23 PM 1143 Views
He 'true' book claims 5 million women were killed during the witch hunt AgentOrange - 15/09/2009 11:55:40 AM 1136 Views
I would hardly say I hate him Mark - 15/09/2009 02:33:13 PM 1199 Views
I think it's more the totally inexplicable nature of his success Werthead - 15/09/2009 03:48:28 PM 1286 Views
Eragon and Twilight indicate all that is evil to me in the world LadyLorraine - 15/09/2009 04:33:29 PM 1268 Views
I hardly think it's that inexplicable. Legolas - 15/09/2009 04:33:39 PM 1136 Views
Honestly, his works play on a very basic fact of human psychology., everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:23:56 AM 1267 Views
Misplaced superiority. Jacob - 15/09/2009 05:10:34 PM 1191 Views
Well, regarding goodkind... jh - 15/09/2009 05:23:34 PM 1201 Views
I couldn't say... Jacob - 15/09/2009 05:57:12 PM 1221 Views
well, you stuck with the poor quality books longer than me. *NM* jh - 16/09/2009 12:39:23 AM 578 Views
It's pure literary snobbery Wibble - 15/09/2009 11:08:44 PM 1214 Views
I agree with you 100%. Tom - 16/09/2009 02:20:11 AM 1091 Views
Very nice summary. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:32:38 AM 1258 Views
That's more than a little unfair. Craig - 16/09/2009 05:29:59 AM 1148 Views
Dan Brown is a snob. Sophy - 16/09/2009 06:32:21 AM 1325 Views
Where does the rule come from that you can't read good books while travelling? It is nonsense! Camilla - 18/09/2009 10:16:56 AM 1373 Views
because all of the cool kids hate him random thoughts - 15/09/2009 11:17:29 PM 1044 Views
He has an enormous schwanzstucker. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/09/2009 01:18:37 AM 808 Views
I figured that'd set most guys against him. *NM* rebelaessedai - 16/09/2009 01:51:56 AM 602 Views
I don't get it either. everynametaken - 16/09/2009 02:01:04 AM 1111 Views
I think you'll appreciate this Tom Geoff - 16/09/2009 03:03:24 PM 1378 Views
Hmm. The sneerathon seems like a good idea. jh - 16/09/2009 03:52:15 PM 1153 Views
That was lovely, thank you! Tom - 17/09/2009 03:04:46 PM 1131 Views
My pleasure Geoff - 17/09/2009 03:58:31 PM 1285 Views
I don't. I think he's just average, though occasionally fun for an easy read/skim *NM* IndigoAjah - 17/09/2009 12:39:05 AM 605 Views
Plenty of them probably don't. They just don't have the guts to say what they truly think. *NM* Vodalus - 17/09/2009 10:10:39 PM 559 Views
And yet there's still no "Why do so many people hate Faile?" post on the WoT board... *NM* TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2009 04:05:26 PM 805 Views
How do you know? *NM* jh - 18/09/2009 04:57:15 PM 599 Views
I pop in there on occasion. TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2009 05:09:59 PM 1515 Views
Oh, it's a job. jh - 18/09/2009 07:35:32 PM 1268 Views
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